Unjust Judge

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Luke 18 And he told them a parable, to the effect that they ought always to pray and not lose heart. 2 He said, “In a certain city there was a judge who neither feared God nor regarded man; 3 and there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, ‘Vindicate me against my adversary.’ 4 For a while he refused; but afterward he said to himself, ‘Though I neither fear God nor regard man, 5 yet because this widow bothers me, I will vindicate her, or she will wear me out by her continual coming.’” 6 And the Lord said, “Hear what the unrighteous judge says. 7 And will not God vindicate his elect, who cry to him day and night? Will he delay long over them? 8 I tell you, he will vindicate them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of man comes, will he find faith on earth?”

This is a parable about the antichrist, I see the city as Israel and the widow as Jerusalem.

Your thoughts---------------
 

Sipsey

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It would seem the 1st verse explains the parable. I see no need to overanalyze it.

Luke 18:1
Now He was telling them a parable to show that at all times they ought to pray and not to lose heart,
Luke states the purpose of this parable right up front. A positive and a negative.
The positive: That disciples ought to pray. The negative: That they do not lose heart.
 

Nehemiah6

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This is a parable about the antichrist, I see the city as Israel and the widow as Jerusalem.
I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. This parable is about persistence in prayer, and even though the Lord delays many answers, He will eventually vindicate the persistent.
 

ewq1938

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The point of the parable is that if a bad judge can be convinced to answer the pleas of someone and do the right thing, how much moreso will God hear the pleas and prayers of those he loves and do right by them? The story is laid out very much like one of Hillel's 7 interpretational rules. Hillel was likely the head of the Sanhedrin when Jesus taught in the Temple at 12. Hillel didn't create the "Rules of Hillel," he recognized God's use of them through the writers and he was the first to write them down so they were credited to him. Anyways, there is one called "Light and Heavy." This takes one item that is important to God but less in weight to something else, to show how far God will go for the "something else." For example, "If God will feed the sparrows of the air, how much more will he feed you?" The sparrow is light, we are the heavy. The unjust judge is light in this case, and God is the heavy.
 

Pilgrimshope

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It would seem the 1st verse explains the parable. I see no need to overanalyze it.

Luke 18:1
Now He was telling them a parable to show that at all times they ought to pray and not to lose heart,
Luke states the purpose of this parable right up front. A positive and a negative.
The positive: That disciples ought to pray. The negative: That they do not lose heart.
amen that’s what I heard too persistence in prayer even if we don’t see it yet pays off and reveals our faith and perseverance.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Luke 18 And he told them a parable, to the effect that they ought always to pray and not lose heart. 2 He said, “In a certain city there was a judge who neither feared God nor regarded man; 3 and there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, ‘Vindicate me against my adversary.’ 4 For a while he refused; but afterward he said to himself, ‘Though I neither fear God nor regard man, 5 yet because this widow bothers me, I will vindicate her, or she will wear me out by her continual coming.’” 6 And the Lord said, “Hear what the unrighteous judge says. 7 And will not God vindicate his elect, who cry to him day and night? Will he delay long over them? 8 I tell you, he will vindicate them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of man comes, will he find faith on earth?”

This is a parable about the antichrist, I see the city as Israel and the widow as Jerusalem.

Your thoughts---------------
“And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;

Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man: And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary. And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man;

Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me. And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.

And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? I tell you that he will avenge them speedily.

Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭18:1-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬


I think it’s about being persistent in prayer and not losing heart if we don’t immediately see an answer. To keep
Praying consistently. It will always lead to the best outcome even if it’s not what we wanted
 

p_rehbein

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This is a parable about the antichrist, I see the city as Israel and the widow as Jerusalem.
Interesting assumption. I have looked at Gills Exposition, and other Commentaries, but do not find any that hold with your assumption. They all pretty much show what is required to be qualified as a Judge, and what DISQUALIFIES one as a Judge.........

EXCERPT:

But the judge in the text, came greatly short of these qualifications: his character follows,
which feared not God, neither regarded man;
and therefore, according to the canon, was disqualified from being a judge, since he was destitute of the fear of God; and seeing he regarded not men, he could neither have any love to men, nor any share in the affections of men, and such an one is very unfit to be a judge, for he cannot be thought to have any regard to his conscience, or his credit, and so not to justice and equity. The former of these characters, is what belongs to every man in a state of unregeneracy; there is no true fear of God before the eyes, or in the heart of any unconverted man; wherever it is, it is put there by the grace of God:


HERE:

Luke 18 Commentary - John Gill's Exposition of the Bible
 

studentoftheword

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My view
Jesus here in this parable is speaking to His Disciples -----and preparing The disciples for what they are going to encounter which is persecution and resistance when they go out to preach the Gospel of the Good News ----so Jesus tells them this parable of the widow who kept going back to the unjust judge and ----he---the unjust judge finally gives in to the widow's request as he realises this widow is not going to cave in and Quit coming to him and she will eventually tire him out and wear him down -----

so ---- I see the people who will resist the gospel represent the Unjust Judge ----

The Widow represents the Disciples who will just keep Praying for God's Grace to sustain them with the power in their weakness to resist the unjust persecution and resistance they will face for Preaching the Good News and by them continually preaching the Good News they will eventually bring some people to accept what is being preached ---

The Question should be ---How can this be applied to Christians today ?----

All Christians are called to go out into our world and tell people of what Jesus did for us --so how do we react when we get a hand up in our face saying the person has their own religion or they don't want to here about Jesus and having eternal life --do we Loose heart and cave in and quit or do we Pray to God and rely on the Holy Spirit for the strength to continue telling others about Jesus and having eternal life ------
 

CS1

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Luke 18 And he told them a parable, to the effect that they ought always to pray and not lose heart. 2 He said, “In a certain city there was a judge who neither feared God nor regarded man; 3 and there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, ‘Vindicate me against my adversary.’ 4 For a while he refused; but afterward he said to himself, ‘Though I neither fear God nor regard man, 5 yet because this widow bothers me, I will vindicate her, or she will wear me out by her continual coming.’” 6 And the Lord said, “Hear what the unrighteous judge says. 7 And will not God vindicate his elect, who cry to him day and night? Will he delay long over them? 8 I tell you, he will vindicate them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of man comes, will he find faith on earth?”

This is a parable about the antichrist, I see the city as Israel and the widow as Jerusalem.

Your thoughts---------------
I do not agree the Parpale is about the Antichrist. The parable is about faith and Jesus is teaching the lesson of "opportunity".

Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said. 7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? 8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”

WILL HE FIND FAITH! Luke chapter 18 has an application and narrative of faith, prayer, humbling ones self

  • the persistent women keep asking
  • Pharisee and the Tax Collector tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
  • The little children Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.”
  • the Rich Young Ruler “You still lack one thing. " Faith"

  • " Who then can be saved?” With God All Things Are Possible

Jesus is teaching to ask and keep asking but ask in faith and be humble and seek forgiveness and know With God all things are possible.