To the Unvaccinated in NY you have until Jan 5th to leave.

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ZNP

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I guess you are woefully ignorant of the fact that, in Canada, people travel primarily by car. Please, go and spread your ignorance somewhere else. Leave this site for people who know what they're talking about.
So then the article is correct, you are not denying that you could not take a train, plane, or cruise without a vaccine passport?
 

ZNP

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To reiterate the noose is slowly tightening. In Australia they round up people who aren't even sick and put them into quarantine camps even if they test negative for Covid. In Austria and Greece they have prohibitive fines for anyone who is not vaccinated so that for 90% of the populace they cannot afford to say no to the vaccine. Germany has mandated the vaccine for everyone. Many countries will not allow you to get on an airplane or a train without a vaccine passport. NY says it is a felony to have a counterfeit vaccine passport, which can be understood to mean it is a felony to go anywhere a vaccine passport is required if you don't have one.

It is much harder to require a vaccine passport for people in cars, but it can be done. In the US we have "easy pass" which is an electronic device that pays the toll as you drive. It would be a simple thing to have the easy pass know who does and does not have a vaccine passport and if you were driving without one the cops would pull you over. The principle with this is the same as the principle with planes, trains, and cruise ships. The difference is that it is more difficult to implement. But legally NY saying no unvaccinated can enter their state is the same as Australia saying that.

Let's remember it is taking 3-6 months to go from wild conspiracy theory to fact. 6 months ago quarantine camps were wild conspiracy theories, fines for unvaccinated, making it a felony to be unvaccinated, and requiring vaccine passports were all at one time in the distant past of 3-6 months a wild conspiracy theory.

The mayor of Chicago said the purpose was to make the unvaccinated miserable.
 

ZNP

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-backs-vax-mandate-domestic-air-travel-video/

The goal is obvious -- 100% vaccinated. Full compliance.

The strategy is simple, once someone is vaccinated they don't care, they may say they are anti mandate but they don't care. So with each step you take you force more and more to get vaccinated and as a result the resistance is less and less.

It will ultimately be that you cannot travel from state to state without a vaccine passport, you can't have a job, you will be fined, they will have quarantine camps, etc. Everything we see in other countries will come here.
 

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-backs-vax-mandate-domestic-air-travel-video/

The goal is obvious -- 100% vaccinated. Full compliance.

The strategy is simple, once someone is vaccinated they don't care, they may say they are anti mandate but they don't care. So with each step you take you force more and more to get vaccinated and as a result the resistance is less and less.

It will ultimately be that you cannot travel from state to state without a vaccine passport, you can't have a job, you will be fined, they will have quarantine camps, etc. Everything we see in other countries will come here.
Well, I saw this today. Fauci wants to make domestic flights impossible without the jab.

https://www.inquirer.com/health/cor...-for-air-travel-dr-fauci-advice-20211227.html

Granted, can still drive. For now.
 

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I expect that NY, California and Washington DC will be the first places to shut down all travel including cars without a vaccine passport.
NYC and Long Island would be the easiest to shut off. You can't get out of Long Island without going through a major bridge or tunnel (or the ferry -- if they seal off NYC you could leave Long Island via the Ferry but the line on that would probably become ridiculous after one day).

It would be possible to leave by bicycle as you can ride across the Brooklyn bridge and then go all the way North into Westchester. That is a very long bike ride for anyone not used to riding a bike and since you don't have a vaccine passport you wouldn't be allowed to eat anywhere or sleep anywhere on the way.
 

ZNP

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The private sector vaccine mandate has taken effect in NYC. It is important for those outside of NYC to be aware of the process because this is a preview for the rest of the country.
 

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New York has become a very toxic state! Thank God I don't live there.

On a different Christian Forum, check out what this pro vaxxer had to say about anti vaxxers. o_O

"All anti vaxxers are absolute monsters and if you are anti ax than you are absolutely to blame and all of you should be thrown into prison for good. Anti vaxxers are an embarrassment to conservatism, makes us true conservative look like morons."

If anti vaxxers are monsters who should be thrown into prison for good, then what would you call the people who manufactured this “plan-demic” in the first place and what should be their fate?
 

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a lot of folks feel that way about the unvaxxed. ( me).

and the unvaxxed are going to get demonized a lot more in 2022...
 

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ZNP

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Washington DC just announced that if you don't have a vaccine passport you can't leave your house starting Saturday.

NYC will be next.
 

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Scottish Newspaper Asks Readers if ‘COVID Internment Camps’ Should be Introduced
Yes. Strictly for all mainstream media personnel -- vaxxed or not. But not for ordinary law-abiding citizens. This just goes to show how twisted things have become. Newspapers in "free" countries are now competing with Pravda (which was at least openly Communist) to create Gulags.

And there is already a Gulag in Washington. D.C. and there is no one protesting outside that hellhole to have the prisoners freed. “For the First Time We Were All Able to Sing the Star-Spangled Banner Together, We Sang it Loud and Proud” – Exclusive: Patriots Speak Out from the Inside of DC “GITMO” – One Year After January 6
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ots-speak-inside-dc-gitmo-one-year-january-6/
 

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Washington DC just announced that if you don't have a vaccine passport you can't leave your house starting Saturday.

NYC will be next.
Link?

I'm trying to search and find anything about that but there doesn't seem to be anything.
 

ZNP

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Link?

I'm trying to search and find anything about that but there doesn't seem to be anything.
I heard this on tucker Carlson tonight on Tuesday. However, it seems what I understood them to be saying wasn't the same as what they were actually doing. I thought you were not allowed to leave your house without a vaccine passport, but what it really is that you can't enter a business without a vaccine passport.
 

Genipher

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I heard this on tucker Carlson tonight on Tuesday. However, it seems what I understood them to be saying wasn't the same as what they were actually doing. I thought you were not allowed to leave your house without a vaccine passport, but what it really is that you can't enter a business without a vaccine passport.
Ah, ok.