TONGUES false teaching.

Here's my last sentence in that post

"So with the help of the Holy Spirit, inspired men wrote the Word of God. Not mens opinions."

Let's be careful not to confuse people. You and I said the same thing.

Well i understand, " with help of the Holy Spirit" let it open how much he is involved with this.
I think " throuh the Holy Spirit" makes more clear that he alone is the Initiator of the scripture.
And i am not shure if we can speak from inspired men. Is it not more what they wrote is inspired?
But I am shure we mean the same.

When Jesus told the pharisees that they should believe His works, He was talking about the obvious miracles He was performing, that is, lame people healed, blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, dead people coming to life. That's a vast difference from what you practice day to day. If what you had was miraculous, it would be a very easy thing to demonstrate. But what I get is that you are afraid that your fig leaves will show that you're really naked in that respect.

It has been proven beyond doubt (for those with an open mind and open heart to the truth) that modern tongues (for the most part) is not miraculous, anyone can do it, it has no language structure, and insufficient vocabulary to convey any intelligible message. So those doing it are deceived, and are taking the Lord's name in vain when they claim it's from God (albeit they are ignorant of that fact).

So if you really want to prove me wrong, then do as I ask, because it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. It's a simple request, although it will take some time and effort. If you love your fellow Christians who need to be corrected, then you'll do whatever it takes. On the other hand, if you love only yourself, you'll continue to be hostile and slanderous.

I'm not asking you to prove you are the Christ, I already know you're not. So comparing what you do to the works of Christ and implying that I should believe you on account of the works you do is nonsense. It's ludicrous because the works you are doing (in this forum) is so far from Christlike, most people with any knowledge and spiritual maturity are shaking their heads. A Christlike work would be to repent from your hostility, and submit to doing what will obviously solve the problem of disunity among believers.

Everyone knows what a witch doctor is and what he does, so stop using exaggerative and slanderous language. Jesus said that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks, and what you're showing in your words is evil, not good. You might think it's good, and you might think you have the Spirit of God, but I'm saying that what you're showing is a different spirit. The apostle Paul wrote that controversies are inevitable, to show who is approved of God and who is not. If you don't start acting like you're approved of God, no one is going to listen to anything you say.

So, as I spoke before, God does heal today, and some of those healings are well documented. But I've yet to see any so-called 'tongues' well documented. I'm asking people who have the gift to well document it, so that it's a clear testimony that God is in it. So far, everyone who has documented it has proven the opposite.

Can you understand that the other side (your side) needs an apologetic argument? It might be settled for you, but it's not for millions of Christians. If you want people to believe that what you do is of God, then shouldn't you make that effort? But if not, then why are you posting in this forum, except just to argue in an endless debate, which the apostle Paul warned Timothy about?

If you continue in the same vein that you're going, the only reasonable conclusion anyone can make is that you fear exposure. Why don't you prove me wrong in this matter, and do what I ask?

I know you logged off, because, anyone who looks at those pictures (1) Satellite and (2) police drone during Investigation can feel the Power of God. But would YOU like the Testimonies of the three people who confirmed my Angel encounter by their own encounter of the Same Angel while helping to stop the fire all on my property?

And just an FYI, this Miracle that several hundred people witnessed from fire fighters to police to neighbors to reporters saw the Power of God intervening for a Modern Day Tongue Speaking, Miracle Believing, Man of God!

Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow.
To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to us they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven
—things which angels desire to look into.

Do you believe the Scripture/Bible is God's word for you to follow???

Of course, but you know how many Christian denominations and views are there and all claiming to have the correct understanding?

I know what I am talking about. And thats why i dont believe this false teachings.

If the gift of speaking in tongues which Paul is talking about in 1. Cor. is for today. Then this gifts would be given in every church worldwide to all times. And has nothing to do with the empowering with the Holy Spirit or be filled with the Holy Spirit.
Its a gift like every other gift.
But you push it up to the most Important gift someone can have. Forget in all this not 1. Cor. Chapter 13. Love is the most important gift we can have and show.

I noticed that there is no difference in tongues used by Latter Day Saints, some Muslims and True Christians.

Happy New Year to you Aidan1,

What is God's View from Heaven to us concerning His Gift of Tongues?

No, you do not know what you are talking about. All the gifts are given to the Church and we are told to seek them, desire them and do so earnestly. Yet, the Holy Spirit doesn't force you to use them. You are just unlearned in this matter. 1cor 13 known as the Love Chapter,

is saying the gifts used without love are nothing. Trying actually to read the whole chapter. The Holy Spirit does two things in the Believer

1. give power to be a witness of the resurrected Lord Acts 1:8
2. Come to live in the believer John chapter 14-16 lead them into all truth.

When Jesus told the pharisees that they should believe His works, He was talking about the obvious miracles He was performing, that is, lame people healed, blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, dead people coming to life. That's a vast difference from what you practice day to day. If what you had was miraculous, it would be a very easy thing to demonstrate. But what I get is that you are afraid that your fig leaves will show that you're really naked in that respect.

It has been proven beyond doubt (for those with an open mind and open heart to the truth) that modern tongues (for the most part) is not miraculous, anyone can do it, it has no language structure, and insufficient vocabulary to convey any intelligible message. So those doing it are deceived, and are taking the Lord's name in vain when they claim it's from God (albeit they are ignorant of that fact).

So if you really want to prove me wrong, then do as I ask, because it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. It's a simple request, although it will take some time and effort. If you love your fellow Christians who need to be corrected, then you'll do whatever it takes. On the other hand, if you love only yourself, you'll continue to be hostile and slanderous.

I'm not asking you to prove you are the Christ, I already know you're not. So comparing what you do to the works of Christ and implying that I should believe you on account of the works you do is nonsense. It's ludicrous because the works you are doing (in this forum) is so far from Christlike, most people with any knowledge and spiritual maturity are shaking their heads. A Christlike work would be to repent from your hostility, and submit to doing what will obviously solve the problem of disunity among believers.

Everyone knows what a witch doctor is and what he does, so stop using exaggerative and slanderous language. Jesus said that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks, and what you're showing in your words is evil, not good. You might think it's good, and you might think you have the Spirit of God, but I'm saying that what you're showing is a different spirit. The apostle Paul wrote that controversies are inevitable, to show who is approved of God and who is not. If you don't start acting like you're approved of God, no one is going to listen to anything you say.

So, as I spoke before, God does heal today, and some of those healings are well documented. But I've yet to see any so-called 'tongues' well documented. I'm asking people who have the gift to well document it, so that it's a clear testimony that God is in it. So far, everyone who has documented it has proven the opposite.

Can you understand that the other side (your side) needs an apologetic argument? It might be settled for you, but it's not for millions of Christians. If you want people to believe that what you do is of God, then shouldn't you make that effort? But if not, then why are you posting in this forum, except just to argue in an endless debate, which the apostle Paul warned Timothy about?

If you continue in the same vein that you're going, the only reasonable conclusion anyone can make is that you fear exposure. Why don't you prove me wrong in this matter, and do what I ask?

Well, you are saying that I dont know what I am talking about.
I expierenced to be a witness of the ressurrected Lord
and I know that the Holy Spirit leads to all truth.
Thats why i dont believe certain man made teachings.

Well, you are saying that I dont know what I am talking about.
I expierenced to be a witness of the ressurrected Lord
and I know that the Holy Spirit leads to all truth.
Thats why i dont believe certain man made teachings.

Happy New year DavidTree! Well, i believe if the gift of speaking in tongues still is important for us,( as it is claimed) then we all would have this gift, because the Holy Spirit is the One who gives this gift.
And the most Important point: it would be written in the word of God.
But Paul, who wishes that all could speak in tongues as heself. Statet clear: 1. not all will get this gift. 2. in compare the gift of speaking in tongues aka the gift of prophecie we should take the prophecie. ( this all you find in the 1. Letter to the Corinthians, which had obviously an problem with speaking of tongues)
I dont know exactly what we speak in heaven, but i am shure this is not important to know.

Before Fire 2 weeks ago



After Fire from Police Drone



Now, look at how close the fire got to my buildings, went through my buildings, but never touched my buildings or animals. Over 400 acres went up in flame from a neighbor's mistake. Plus, 4 people confirmed what I knew running through flames 15 feet tall, black so black could not see, smoke you could not breathe. But God through an Angel that 3 others confirmed themselves was working with me side by side, face to face, and Vanished once we finished when I turned to thank Him for helping me and praying to Yeshua as I had asked of him.



But the Fire and Police Reports show the fire came within 6 inches of my Home and Buildings and it destroyed 250 acres of my top, side, lower fields, but the Police and Firemen said, it's like this fire had a mind of its own and knew it could not touch the home and buildings. I replied, that is what Oil and Anointing every perimeter of my property and placing Angels will do for you. Everyone knew it was a Miracle of God and no way was it anything else. People found God over this. Now, that is a Testimony, but, it's only 1 of 4 encounters with God face to face I can share.

I'm sure their linguist can explain this. God is so good.

you did not even know what you just said until you were just told it

Of course, but you know how many Christian denominations and views are there and all claiming to have the correct understanding?