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This appears to be a separate thread. I read somewhere 'bout evening and morning. God said dats a good thing.
 

Dino246

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To the thread title, there are six verses in Genesis 1 that say otherwise.
 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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To the thread title, there are six verses in Genesis 1 that say otherwise.
We can continue the discussion here :LOL:

You forget that it says then came evening and the morning, the first day
 

Pilgrimshope

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This appears to be a separate thread. I read somewhere 'bout evening and morning. God said dats a good thing.
ever notice that the natural things spoken of in the ot manifest Thy selves in the spiritual thkngs of the New Testament ?

“And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:2‬ ‭

“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3-5‬ ‭

“Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:5

Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.

For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭60:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge. I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭4:22-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭4:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:2, 6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.

From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭5:8-9, 11, 13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1-5, 9-10, 12-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there was a time of spiritual darkness that came upon mankind like in the beginning he spoke into the darkness and there was light. Now there is spiritual light that the darkness still doesn’t understand like in the beginning they were seperate light from dark , good from evil now the gospel is the light that seperates and evil

Sorry I just find it interesting how the natural order shows forth the spiritual order of things like a pattern

“For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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ever notice that the natural things spoken of in the ot manifest Thy selves in the spiritual thkngs of the New Testament ?

“And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:2‬ ‭

“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3-5‬ ‭

“Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:5

Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.

For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭60:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge. I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭4:22-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭4:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:2, 6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.

From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭5:8-9, 11, 13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1-5, 9-10, 12-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there was a time of spiritual darkness that came upon mankind like in the beginning he spoke into the darkness and there was light. Now there is spiritual light that the darkness still doesn’t understand like in the beginning they were seperate light from dark , good from evil now the gospel is the light that seperates and evil

Sorry I just find it interesting how the natural order shows forth the spiritual order of things like a pattern

“For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
Don't apologize, soo awesome :D reminded me of a verse that I will share in a bit
 

Dino246

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#13
We can continue the discussion here :LOL:

You forget that it says then came evening and the morning, the first day
Okay, feel free to ignore my post in the other thread.

I didn't forget anything. There was darkness (evening) before God created light (morning).

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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#14
Okay, feel free to ignore my post in the other thread.

I didn't forget anything. There was darkness (evening) before God created light (morning).

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
lol no I just saw it and I laughed I see what you're saying
 

Pilgrimshope

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Don't apologize, soo awesome :D reminded me of a verse that I will share in a bit
It was a bit off topic is why I had apologized some folks don’t like that I appreciate the good spirit you express always !!! A rare commodity sometimes here
 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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#17
ever notice that the natural things spoken of in the ot manifest Thy selves in the spiritual thkngs of the New Testament ?

“And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:2‬ ‭

“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3-5‬ ‭

“Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:5

Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.

For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭60:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge. I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭4:22-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭4:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:2, 6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.

From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭5:8-9, 11, 13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1-5, 9-10, 12-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there was a time of spiritual darkness that came upon mankind like in the beginning he spoke into the darkness and there was light. Now there is spiritual light that the darkness still doesn’t understand like in the beginning they were seperate light from dark , good from evil now the gospel is the light that seperates and evil

Sorry I just find it interesting how the natural order shows forth the spiritual order of things like a pattern

“For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
So these verses reminded me of this verse

Psalms 18

11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
 

Pilgrimshope

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#18
So these verses reminded me of this verse

Psalms 18

11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
amen exactly what I was getting at he only withdrew because of he hadn’t hidden himself from us we would have been destroyed in his presence so he set a wall between God and man to protect us and give us time to repent and rid ourselves of sin so we don’t die in his presence he’s done everything for us even casting us out of Eden and later withdrawing and looking away from our sinfulness
 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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amen exactly what I was getting at he only withdrew because of he hadn’t hidden himself from us we would have been destroyed in his presence so he set a wall between God and man to protect us and give us time to repent and rid ourselves of sin so we don’t die in his presence he’s done everything for us even casting us out of Eden and later withdrawing and looking away from our sinfulness
How much time does humanity need? I find the earth and humanity absurd, extremely sad.
 

JaumeJ

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Yea I suppose it should be a separate thread :cautious:
I was meditating on this just last night. It is morning here. Yes, the subject of the days and when they begin are worthy of BDF.
When our Lord died for us it was at the end of the fifthe day. It was before sunset, so the third day would be what is called Monday afternoon.
I do not think this is very important to those who are content with the way days are counted since the non-believers changed our calendar to the solar calendar, but it is definitely thoughtworthy.