What’s it like being a man?

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GaryA

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This one might be specific to the South:

One aspect of being a man is, you're always pegged to ask the blessing before a family dinner. Women NEVER have to step up. It's always the man expected to thank God for the meal for the whole family.
And here I thought it was because the man is suppose to be the HEAD and LEAD the family.......
If she never "asks the blessing", how is she following the LEAD of the HEAD of the family?

I ask this question to make a point.

Don't conflate/confuse the 'headship' and 'leadership' aspects of the family responsibility that God gave to the man.

Yes - it is customary for the HEAD of the family to "ask the blessing" before a meal.

However, everyone who will partake should be making their own prayer of thanks to God.

I do not believe that the idea of one person praying "for the group" is what God has in mind.

I personally find it distracting to make my prayer of thanks to God while listening to someone else speak theirs aloud. In most situations, I would prefer if everyone just "said their own" silently --- but, I digress...

Leadership is, in part, about giving/making an/the example which others should follow.

If you do not follow the example that was set forth - you are not "obeying* the leadership that/which/who set forth the example that you were supposed to follow.

(not to mention it is after all a kind gesture of showing her thanks after the woman has spent all morning/evening preparing the meals)
If it were not for one very specific thing, I would consider this to be blasphemous; however, I believe that I do in fact understand the particular way that you mean it. (So, I am not suggesting that it is blasphemous.)

Nonetheless, we should never 'cross' or 'mix' these two ideas - the appreciation a husband has for and shows to his wife for her efforts in preparing meals - and - the thanksgiving that both of them should give to God for providing it for/to them.

Neither of them has the right before God to "gloat" and have an "I did it" attitude.

The husband may have put forth the effort to earn the wage that buys the ingredients - and, the wife may have put forth the effort to prepare the meal from those ingredients - but, God gave them both the ability to do what they did.

If the wife has the attitude that she shouldn't have to pray (give thanks to God) because she prepared the meal --- oh-wow, that is so dangerous before God... :eek:
 

shittim

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blasphemous? Thats a little too strong for an innocuous family custom? :unsure::)
 

Robertt

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Never
If she never "asks the blessing", how is she following the LEAD of the HEAD of the family?

I ask this question to make a point.

Don't conflate/confuse the 'headship' and 'leadership' aspects of the family responsibility that God gave to the man.

Yes - it is customary for the HEAD of the family to "ask the blessing" before a meal.

However, everyone who will partake should be making their own prayer of thanks to God.

I do not believe that the idea of one person praying "for the group" is what God has in mind.

I personally find it distracting to make my prayer of thanks to God while listening to someone else speak theirs aloud. In most situations, I would prefer if everyone just "said their own" silently --- but, I digress...

Leadership is, in part, about giving/making an/the example which others should follow.

If you do not follow the example that was set forth - you are not "obeying* the leadership that/which/who set forth the example that you were supposed to follow.


If it were not for one very specific thing, I would consider this to be blasphemous; however, I believe that I do in fact understand the particular way that you mean it. (So, I am not suggesting that it is blasphemous.)

Nonetheless, we should never 'cross' or 'mix' these two ideas - the appreciation a husband has for and shows to his wife for her efforts in preparing meals - and - the thanksgiving that both of them should give to God for providing it for/to them.

Neither of them has the right before God to "gloat" and have an "I did it" attitude.

The husband may have put forth the effort to earn the wage that buys the ingredients - and, the wife may have put forth the effort to prepare the meal from those ingredients - but, God gave them both the ability to do what they did.

If the wife has the attitude that she shouldn't have to pray (give thanks to God) because she prepared the meal --- oh-wow, that is so dangerous before God... :eek:
bless the food, it must be an American tradition not Australian
 

GaryA

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blasphemous? Thats a little too strong for an innocuous family custom? :unsure::)
If it were not for one very specific thing, I would consider this to be blasphemous; however, I believe that I do in fact understand the particular way that you mean it. (So, I am not suggesting that it is blasphemous.)
 

Lynx

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If she never "asks the blessing", how is she following the LEAD of the HEAD of the family?

I ask this question to make a point.

Don't conflate/confuse the 'headship' and 'leadership' aspects of the family responsibility that God gave to the man.

Yes - it is customary for the HEAD of the family to "ask the blessing" before a meal.

However, everyone who will partake should be making their own prayer of thanks to God.

I do not believe that the idea of one person praying "for the group" is what God has in mind.

I personally find it distracting to make my prayer of thanks to God while listening to someone else speak theirs aloud. In most situations, I would prefer if everyone just "said their own" silently --- but, I digress...

Leadership is, in part, about giving/making an/the example which others should follow.

If you do not follow the example that was set forth - you are not "obeying* the leadership that/which/who set forth the example that you were supposed to follow.


If it were not for one very specific thing, I would consider this to be blasphemous; however, I believe that I do in fact understand the particular way that you mean it. (So, I am not suggesting that it is blasphemous.)

Nonetheless, we should never 'cross' or 'mix' these two ideas - the appreciation a husband has for and shows to his wife for her efforts in preparing meals - and - the thanksgiving that both of them should give to God for providing it for/to them.

Neither of them has the right before God to "gloat" and have an "I did it" attitude.

The husband may have put forth the effort to earn the wage that buys the ingredients - and, the wife may have put forth the effort to prepare the meal from those ingredients - but, God gave them both the ability to do what they did.

If the wife has the attitude that she shouldn't have to pray (give thanks to God) because she prepared the meal --- oh-wow, that is so dangerous before God... :eek:
Dude. This ain't the BDF. Let it pass man.
 

Robertt

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many things are biblical but people dont do it .

like prearranged marriages. dont see christians doing that a lot.

so justification may be there. but tradition is what makes people do many things .

And if it is a sin, it dont matter as Jesus died for all our sins ..
 

shittim

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ok, you keep living to yourself and His own will keep living in obedience.
best wishes
 

Robertt

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oh i upsset poor sshittim in forum he marked my post a BIG RED X lol so sorry dude ..
 

Robertt

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ok, you keep living to yourself and His own will keep living in obedience.
best wishes
i am sure hold Saturday holy and give all your possessions to the poor too..

All good it a singles Forum if you dont like me , jsut ignore me..
 

shittim

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oh i upsset poor sshittim in forum he marked my post a BIG RED X lol so sorry dude ..
no you're not, lying like that reveals who you truly are.
the x is disagreement, not offense.
goodbye reprobate
 

Ilive4Jesus

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it's a singles Forum
This is in the Singles Forum?
Oh crap......... I just clicked it because it keeps coming up on the Latest Post (currently active post) list on the side of my main page :oops:
(No wonder family dynamics are misunderstood/ taken out of context)

Il4J looks around for an exit.... slowly backs away
 

Lynx

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ok, you keep living to yourself and His own will keep living in obedience.
best wishes
oh i upsset poor sshittim in forum he marked my post a BIG RED X lol so sorry dude ..
Godwin's law states the longer a forum thread runs, the higher the probability that somebody will mention Hitler.

CC law states the longer a forum thread runs, the higher the probability that somebody will imply somebody else is not a real Christian.

I mean, unless a thread is like three posts, it WILL happen here. :rolleyes:
 

Moses_Young

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Hi Moses!

I know that sometimes your posts are of a more of a joking manner, and I wasn't sure if that was the case here (making a play on the contrast between the use of the words wrong and right,) so I hope it's ok if I go on a short tangent. :D

This might just be me, but I personally can't agree with believing that stereotypes must be right just because they exist, or that a stereotype holds as a majority fact with only a few exceptions.
Always fine, Seoulsearch. Thanks for your words of wisdom. My comment was meant in a light-hearted manner, and certainly, to judge anyone (without evidence) according to a stereotype would not only be unjust, but would harm those unique people who are the exceptions to the rule. This said, I do know that Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons:

Titus 1:12-13 (NKJV)
12 One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,

;-)
 

shittim

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This is in the Singles Forum?
Oh crap......... I just clicked it because it keeps coming up on the Latest Post (currently active post) list on the side of my main page :oops:
(No wonder family dynamics are misunderstood/ taken out of context)

Il4J looks around for an exit.... slowly backs away
I and many find threads that way, you are fine as far as I know.