A 'Merican response to school shootin's

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Gideon300

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As an outside observer, I wish to offer some advice on how to minimise the incidence of school shootings in the US. Since it is obvious that Americans will not disarm, there has to be an alternative. I suggest the following:

  • Security fencing/razor wire, around every school.
  • Bulletproof glass in every window.
  • Armed guards at the sole entrance to school grounds.
  • National Guardsmen based at all schools with more than 50 pupils.
  • All teachers to be armed, and given appropriate training.
  • Airport style security scanners at each school.
This is not the answer to mass shootings, of course. Since any psycho can get an AR15 equivalent, it's only a matter of time until the next rampage. However, at least your children will be safe.

Interesting statistics: when the constitution was written to include the right to bear arms, the firing rate was around 3-4 rounds a minute. AR15 something like 45 rounds a minute. AR15 has a lethal range of around 500 metres. Old style weapons maybe 150 metres. It's good to know that technology has made everything so much more efficient.
 

Eli1

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When it comes to guns, the Americans are like a crazy person in an asylum screaming “I’m not crazy”.
‘What’s funny is that Trump had a nra meeting a few days ago and guns were NOT allowed. Why? Because they know guns are the issue, not the people.
Anyway, guns will be with America until this empire collapses and then people will change their way of life.
 

Aerials1978

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When it comes to guns, the Americans are like a crazy person in an asylum screaming “I’m not crazy”.
‘What’s funny is that Trump had a nra meeting a few days ago and guns were NOT allowed. Why? Because they know guns are the issue, not the people.
Anyway, guns will be with America until this empire collapses and then people will change their way of life.
Guns have also been an integral part of American culture and society. These type of things were not happening with the frequency we see now. What has changed? Guns are are tool, this has everything to do with the human condition.
 

Eli1

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Guns have also been an integral part of American culture and society. These type of things were not happening with the frequency we see now. What has changed? Guns are are tool, this has everything to do with the human condition.
You sir are too programmed to have a fair discussion because you think that guns are “tools”.
‘If they were tools, why did they ban them at the NRA Trump meeting?
 

Aerials1978

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You sir are too programmed to have a fair discussion because you think that guns are “tools”.
‘If they were tools, why did they ban them at the NRA Trump meeting?
I don’t know why they were banned. I would need to look into that myself. Also, I’m not programmed. An inanimate objective cannot doing anything on its own. It needs an operator. Your premise a fallacy. I assume it’s derived on emotionalism as opposed actuality.
 

Aerials1978

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You sir are too programmed to have a fair discussion because you think that guns are “tools”.
‘If they were tools, why did they ban them at the NRA Trump meeting?
What you’re saying is since I don’t agree with you, I cannot have a fair conversation. Maybe that’s a problem you need to work on yourself
 

Eli1

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I don’t know why they were banned. I would need to look into that myself. Also, I’m not programmed. An inanimate objective cannot doing anything on its own. It needs an operator. Your premise a fallacy. I assume it’s derived on emotionalism as opposed actuality.
Okay stay in your bubble and be happy. This is what America is all about. Pursuit of happiness in a bubble.
 

Aerials1978

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Sorry, my firearms don’t purchase
Okay stay in your bubble and be happy. This is what America is all about. Pursuit of happiness in a bubble.
Sorry, my firearms don’t purchase rounds, load magazines, chamber a round, and pull the trigger. If they do, maybe I’m missing something. From your comment, I see my assessment is dead on; emotionalism.
 

JTB

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This whole exchange clearly identifies the problem ... the inability to disagree respectfully.
 

Eli1

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This whole exchange clearly identifies the problem ... the inability to disagree respectfully.
I know, but unfortunately this is a by-product of extreme indoctrination by the NRA and our gun-loving culture.
It’s par for the course. This is how America is going to be until the end.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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Gun related violence is just a price Americans will have to pay if people want easy access to guns. Many people are fine with this compromise. That is the reality.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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The issue is, there will always be people with dangerous mental illness, people who abuse animals, paedophiles, murderers, etc. in a population. It is easy to say gun violence responsibility falls on the person (not the gun). So? There is no way to get rid of such people in a population anyway. What is the next step?
 

Lynx

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This whole exchange clearly identifies the problem ... the inability to disagree respectfully.
So what are you saying? Are you saying I'm stupid, is that what you're saying? I'm too dumb to be worth your time having a conversation with me, that what you're trying to say? :p

Sorry... I think I've spent too much time on the forum for one day.
 

Lynx

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This whole exchange clearly identifies the problem ... the inability to disagree respectfully.
Joking aside, I have noticed this a lot even down here in the South where people are generally more polite. I call it the "if you're not with me you're against me" syndrome. If you disagree with me I can't just let it rest as a disagreement. You must be my enemy if you disagree with me on something.

Makes me worry a lot more than I used to about how easy it is for these people to get guns.
 

JTB

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I know, but unfortunately this is a by-product of extreme indoctrination by the NRA and our gun-loving culture.
It’s par for the course. This is how America is going to be until the end.
No, it's a product of

(1) 50 years of liberal indoctrination, changing the national mantra from "one for all and all for one" to "me-me-me I'm the only one"

(2) The conservative wing, despite their hatred of all things liberal, latching onto the me-me-me agenda and using it to promote self-idolatry

(3) A political system which guarantees that with each swing of the pendulum, the apexes grow farther and farther apart

(4) The wholesale adoption by all of the idea that to have a different opinion requires one to respond with hate instead of respectfully disagreeing with those opinions
 

JTB

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So what are you saying? Are you saying I'm stupid, is that what you're saying? I'm too dumb to be worth your time having a conversation with me, that what you're trying to say? :p

Sorry... I think I've spent too much time on the forum for one day.
 

JTB

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Joking aside, I have noticed this a lot even down here in the South where people are generally more polite. I call it the "if you're not with me you're against me" syndrome. If you disagree with me I can't just let it rest as a disagreement. You must be my enemy if you disagree with me on something.

Makes me worry a lot more than I used to about how easy it is for these people to get guns.
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Eli1

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@JTB think about this very simply okay?

There are many crazy people in the world. They exist.
‘The difference is that here in US, a crazy person can easily get a high powered weapon and cause more death very quickly compared to other places in the world.

It’s as simple as that.

Guns are the issue. This is why Guns NOT people were banned at the NRA Trump meeting.
 

BeeThePeace

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A foreigner mocking American's on the dead bodies of innocent children has no capacity to give advice to American's.

It's A m e r i c a n.