As in the days of Noah... ALL flesh had CORRUPTED itself

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Shepherd

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The earth has a molten core?

But I thought that was where the lizard people lived who were secretly ruling the earth by agency of their group of illuminati....

Unless the earth is flat and we are suspended in space on the backs of turtles....
Go back and read what I said. I did start to say "it has a solid iron core" but figured somebody would say "how do you know that?" (sigh)
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PennEd

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No, here it does not say "all" the sons of God. It says "there was a day, when.....". it was only sons of God living at that point in time.
Ah.
So on other occasions Job went and assembled, hung out with, and chatted with some of the other humans with God?

Yes, Job was one of the sons of God because he was a believer.
So all the other Old Testament believers could appear before God as well I take it.

No human has ever been referred to as a "son of God" except pre- fall Adam. No one else was a son of God UNTIL Jesus's death and resurrection. THEN, and ONLY THEN, are we referred to as children of God.
 

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Ah.
So on other occasions Job went and assembled, hung out with, and chatted with some of the other humans with God?


So all the other Old Testament believers could appear before God as well I take it.

No human has ever been referred to as a "son of God" except pre- fall Adam. No one else was a son of God UNTIL Jesus's death and resurrection. THEN, and ONLY THEN, are we referred to as children of God.
Hebrews 7:3 (Regarding Melchizedek) “Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.”

Even-so, men as the sons of God ARE referred to in scripture before Jesus (some just can’t see past angels having sex). The order of Melchizedek was always in the earth. This is the order Christ restored. The priests mentioned before the Law was given are the priests of this order. You cannot have priests without a covenant. Their administration was of the covenant God made with God, the promise of which was given to Abraham 430 years before the Law.
 

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Genesis 6:5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

So what IS this wickedness and sin that caused God to scrub the world and start anew?

It can't be the sin we are all familiar with. Which is the breaking of the Law. Because that has gone on unabated since the Ark landed on Mt Ararat!

No. There was a SPECIFIC sin committed. And we are actually told what that sin is in this chapter.

Genesis 6:
9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 So God LOOKED upon the earth, and INDEED it was CORRUPT; for ALL flesh had CORRUPTED THEIR WAY on the earth.

Corrupt- Blemished, Spoiled, Polluted


So ALL flesh had somehow corrupted itself, AND most of the animals. I believe this is more than them all being descendants of the Nephilim, although I'm sure many had the satanic genes.

We tend to think of the ancients as not much smarter than cavemen. NOTHING could be further from the truth. These people were brilliant. Close to the original creation of Adam. Evolution teaches that we are getting mentally and physically better as a world and species. NOT true. As time goes by we are weaker and weaker than our ancestors in every way except accumulated knowledge.

On top of that, they likely had first hand satanic knowledge of a myriad of subjects, including DNA manipulation.

I believe these people DID something to themselves and animals on a genetic level that so altered God's original Creation, that He had to utterly wipe them out.

THAT was THE sin God could not tolerate.
Except....

9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations (FROM WHICH WE GET GENES). Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

So Noah had incorrupt GENES. As well as the selected animals.

Now Jesus tells us that in the last days this SAME kind of sin committed in Noah's days, will happen again.

And UNLESS these days are shortened, NO FLESH (uncorrupted) will be saved!

You'd have to live on a desert island not to know about the DNA manipulation (corrupting God's Creation) going on today, even IF you don't include the mRNA vaccine they want to pump into everyone.

So....
I have read your excellent posts about this topic and agree 100%. I think that the human gene line is being polluted and corrupted by mRNA and viral vectors vaccines one like astra zeneca and j@J.

Right now Moderna is testing a vaccine for the monkeypox virus. The announcement came only a week after the first cases were declared, someone or a group of evil people are behind all this, it is planned. No doubt they will ask people to take another poisonous Jab.

The worst part is there is evidence that these virus ( monkeypox and covid-19 ) were modified in laboratory. This is all deliberate.

Furthermore many plants, trees are also modified (GMO) and are slowly but surely poisoning us. So yes everything is now corrupted like in the time of Noah. it is my opinion that we are at the beginning of the end...in the fall probably they will release and humanized avian flu. People having received the covid shots with their immune system weakened by it will die of this flu. I hope i am wrong.

Blessings!

JF
 

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I have read your excellent posts about this topic and agree 100%. I think that the human gene line is being polluted and corrupted by mRNA and viral vectors vaccines one like astra zeneca and j@J.

Right now Moderna is testing a vaccine for the monkeypox virus. The announcement came only a week after the first cases were declared, someone or a group of evil people are behind all this, it is planned. No doubt they will ask people to take another poisonous Jab.

The worst part is there is evidence that these virus ( monkeypox and covid-19 ) were modified in laboratory. This is all deliberate.

Furthermore many plants, trees are also modified (GMO) and are slowly but surely poisoning us. So yes everything is now corrupted like in the time of Noah. it is my opinion that we are at the beginning of the end...in the fall probably they will release and humanized avian flu. People having received the covid shots with their immune system weakened by it will die of this flu. I hope i am wrong.

Blessings!

JF
Thank you for your kind words.

Most of those who won’t accept the truth about this subject have never really studied it, and have certainly not read the first couple pages here. They have a fixed idea that they don’t want to have to empty that erroneous box in their head and re-examine it.

I used to think this was an ancillary, not very important issue. However now I believe it’s very important for a whole host of reasons.
 

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Thank you for your kind words.

Most of those who won’t accept the truth about this subject have never really studied it, and have certainly not read the first couple pages here. They have a fixed idea that they don’t want to have to empty that erroneous box in their head and re-examine it.

I used to think this was an ancillary, not very important issue. However now I believe it’s very important for a whole host of reasons.
True that most people do not accept the truth. For many, the science is a bit complex. Many, many top scientists including Nobel prize winners tell us these vaccine do not work and do cause more harm then good. I am especially sad for the children that they vaccinate with these poisons I hope these criminals end up in jail.

Personally i have been following from day one the covid lies. I realized quickly when the scientific literature came out that it was all planned. I have had experience in the past about the H1N1 when the WHO declares a false pandemic, I was on a science committee to see what to do about this declared pandemic, very quickly we dismissed this as being a benign cold with a very low mortality rate while the media was telling lies about how dangerous it was. I knew then the WHO was a criminal organization and i was watching for their next fake pandemic ( covid 19) . By the way not many people remember that the WHO director then was found guilty in court of a serious conflict of interest as she was an investor in H1N1 vaccine factories, she lost her job after that.. Who was severely blamed for declaring a false pandemic then but now the WHO is financially backed by countries like China and Bill and Melinda gates foundation.... the WHO , WEF and IMF are now a big evil corrupt cabal and will cause a lot more grief worldwide in a very short time, I see it coming fast...everything is now corrupted, no ethics, thievery and scandal on a grand scale. Mark of the beast in preparation they are still testing on how to do this..

Blessings friends, May the Lord protect us all,

JF
 

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I used to think this was an ancillary, not very important issue. However now I believe it’s very important for a whole host of reasons.
The COVID Scamdemic was the perfect vehicle to prepare the unbelieving world for the Antichrist and his global tyranny. The "free" world is no longer free. Unfortunately too many Christians accepted the devil's narrative. Now millions are paying the price either through death or severe disabilities.
 

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Thank you for your kind words.

Most of those who won’t accept the truth about this subject have never really studied it, and have certainly not read the first couple pages here. They have a fixed idea that they don’t want to have to empty that erroneous box in their head and re-examine it.

I used to think this was an ancillary, not very important issue. However now I believe it’s very important for a whole host of reasons.
Nope....
Again another eronius conclusion.

I have studied this extensively and have been convinced according to the fallacy of God not being Sovereign, Omniscient, Omnipotent, Immutable and Holy holy holy. (Which your conclusions assert)

The source of your conclusions is the pseudopigrapha known as the book of Enoch written in the first century BC by an unknown author in and around Egypt. All internal evidence of this book points to this being true repeatedly.
The opening paragraph of this book explains in no uncertain terms of why it is not true and not scripture with the logical conclusion of it being a piece of religious fantasy fiction....but since the basics of what constituted scripture vs what is definitely not scripture is not taught as a part of reasonable hermeneutics that knowledge has escaped your discernment as well as well as what the attributes of God are and how the definitions of God's attributes make your conclusions even more ridiculous.

In conclusion...you are teaching directly in opposition to Jesus's direct words. What famous villain does that make you out to be like?
 

PennEd

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Nope....
Again another eronius conclusion.
Nope right back at ya.
I have studied this extensively and have been convinced according to the fallacy of God not being Sovereign, Omniscient, Omnipotent, Immutable and Holy holy holy. (Which your conclusions assert)
Nope.

Never asserted any of those things. But since He
created neither us, nor the angels, to be robots, they had free will to disobey Him. And they did. As did we.
Why do you think we're in this fallen state to begin with, that nothing short of the death of God (Jesus) Himself could fix it!?

The source of your conclusions is the pseudopigrapha known as the book of Enoch written in the first century BC by an unknown author in and around Egypt. All internal evidence of this book points to this being true repeatedly.
Nope

Virtually I've posted is from the 66 Books of cannon.
In conclusion...you are teaching directly in opposition to Jesus's direct words. What famous villain does that make you out to be like?
Nope
Jesus Himself said the end times will be like the days of Noah, when all flesh corrupted itself.

And just because you think you're slick by not actually using the word, you should know that calling another member Satan is a bannable offense.
 
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joecoten

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Thank you for your kind words.

Most of those who won’t accept the truth about this subject have never really studied it, and have certainly not read the first couple pages here. They have a fixed idea that they don’t want to have to empty that erroneous box in their head and re-examine it.

I used to think this was an ancillary, not very important issue. However now I believe it’s very important for a whole host of reasons.
During late 2013, due to health issues, I laid down and started watching documentaries on You Tube. As I'm on a disability pension, I spent long hours doing this. At the time I knew nothing about Nephilim save that they were large people in the bible.
After 8 months of watching videos and doing online and bible research, I came to the surprising conclusion that some wicked angels had mated with women. That this was the reason for the flood, and that this is where demons came from. I also came to understand that we have this problem today. The occult and UFOs are 2 examples.
I saw how the church had hidden this knowledge from me. I also learned that it is near impossible to reach a closed mind. I guess that's God's problem, not mine.
 

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During late 2013, due to health issues, I laid down and started watching documentaries on You Tube. As I'm on a disability pension, I spent long hours doing this. At the time I knew nothing about Nephilim save that they were large people in the bible.
After 8 months of watching videos and doing online and bible research, I came to the surprising conclusion that some wicked angels had mated with women. That this was the reason for the flood, and that this is where demons came from. I also came to understand that we have this problem today. The occult and UFOs are 2 examples.
I saw how the church had hidden this knowledge from me. I also learned that it is near impossible to reach a closed mind. I guess that's God's problem, not mine.
The "reason for the flood" is clearly given in Genesis 6
#1 The wickedness of man (verse 5)
#2 The earth was filled with violence(verse 11)
#3 The earth was "corrupt" because of corrupt behavior. "for all flesh had corrupted his way"(verse 12)
 
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joecoten

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The "reason for the flood" is clearly given in Genesis 6
#1 The wickedness of man (verse 5)
#2 The earth was filled with violence(verse 11)
#3 The earth was "corrupt" because of corrupt behavior. "for all flesh had corrupted his way"(verse 12)
Yup.
 

Shepherd

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Ah.
So on other occasions Job went and assembled, hung out with, and chatted with some of the other humans with God?


So all the other Old Testament believers could appear before God as well I take it.


No human has ever been referred to as a "son of God" except pre- fall Adam. No one else was a son of God UNTIL Jesus's death and resurrection. THEN, and ONLY THEN, are we referred to as children of God.
Yes, Abraham
"stood before the Lord" and Moses was "before the Lord". Shows that you don't have to travel to Heaven to do that.
 

PennEd

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where demons came from
Yes.

This is speculative, but I've long thought demons could be the spirits of the dead Nephilim.
They did not go to Sheol/Hades, and they are petrified of the Abyss. Whatever exactly that is.

Some commentators say this passage applies to them:

Isaiah 26:14 KJV
They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.


We know that the living (saved) and the human dead (unsaved) will be resurrected to judgement. Apparently there will be no judgement for these dead. They will be cast into the Abyss.
 

PennEd

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Yes, Abraham
"stood before the Lord" and Moses was "before the Lord". Shows that you don't have to travel to Heaven to do that.
You are getting your members of the Trinity mixed up. Jesus made several OT appearances, some you have recounted.

Now is this Jesus, God the Son? Or the Lord (Yahweh) God the Father?

Job
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1Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:
 
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joecoten

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Demons, Nephilim, and fallen angels are active in our society.
I really don't care what anyone thinks, says, or does to the contrary...I know better!
 
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joecoten

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You are getting your members of the Trinity mixed up. Jesus made several OT appearances, some you have recounted.

Now is this Jesus, God the Son? Or the Lord (Yahweh) God the Father?

Job
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1Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:
Jesus is also in the book of Enoch.
 

PennEd

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Jesus is also in the book of Enoch.
Yes. I think the Book of Enoch has value, but it's not accepted cannon. So it needs to be treated differently than the Bible.

But there is waaaay more than enough in Scripture to prove these things without Enoch.
 

Shepherd

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You are getting your members of the Trinity mixed up. Jesus made several OT appearances, some you have recounted.

Now is this Jesus, God the Son? Or the Lord (Yahweh) God the Father?

Job
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1Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:
Yes, Jesus is the I AM, the Alpha and Omega, The Word. We should all know that. So what is your point? Abraham stood "before the Lord", Moses was "before the Lord", some "sons of God" presented themselves "before the Lord". They stood before God somewhere on planet earth and Satan came too, "the accuser of the brethren" (in this case Job) just like he still does today. Come on man, can we be on the same page about anything?