The hadron collider

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Magenta

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No lol...
I mean that these are real facts and latest theories. Not something from a science fiction novel. They set off seismic charges on the moon to study the interior makeup....and it created more questions than it answered. A lot of this has been finally declassified and is available and being discussed.

They believe that the interior has some layer of hydrocarbon in it because of the proliferation of it in the universe itself. We get all wound up thinking that it comes solely from organic material....unfortunately this just isn't true. Hydrogen and carbon are extremely prolific in the universe. Titanium isn't.
Hydrogen is the most prolific element in the universe (around 70%?) :)
 

PennEd

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New theory: You live for the thrill of proving people wrong, whatever it takes and however much you have to read into Bible verses.
That's pretty dang funny, since YOU were the one that started the exchange in an attempt to prove me wrong! Lol

You are REALLY doing ALOT of projecting today today friend. A search of one's own heart might be in order. Just sayin.

How's that for a theory?
 

Dude653

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Yep. They keep thinking they have an answer when they don't.

They claim theories cannot be wrong, and yet they have been.

And that's how science works.
That was your second straw man. No one ever said a theory can't be wrong.
 

Dude653

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That's pretty dang funny, since YOU were the one that started the exchange in an attempt to prove me wrong! Lol

You are REALLY doing ALOT of projecting today today friend. A search of one's own heart might be in order. Just sayin.

How's that for a theory?
Straw man number 3. I never tried to prove you wrong about anything.
Were people demon possessed? Maybe they were maybe they weren't? I'm not really convinced either way
That precisely zero to do with the scientific method
 

Magenta

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That was your second straw man. No one ever said a theory can't be wrong.
Since when is stating a fact creating a straw man?

You kick against facts.

Not a very prudent thing to do.

For someone so invested in science.
 

hornetguy

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But this exact mentality is why America is gradually turning into a third world country because people have such a disdain for science
I disagree.... we are turning into a third world country because of the liberal left.... the ones that brought us woke theory and critical race theory being taught in school instead of science, math, etc.... the same left that brought us totally open borders, allowing at least 250,000 mostly illiterate (at best) an/or criminal (at worst) to come in PER MONTH. The vast majority of these people expect "free stuff" when they get here, and the liberal left gives it to em.... They totally drain the hospital systems, school systems, and communities where they expect subsidized, if not free, housing.
None of them understand, or care about the American system of being able to pursue your dream, they expect it to be given to them. They also do not understand how the government works, and will likely vote for the side that promises them more free stuff.... the liberal left....
The same liberal left that is bringing the destruction of the family unit by promoting and encouraging transgenderism, homosexuality, and over all lack of any moral values.... along with the murder of millions of unborn human beings....

Yeah.... I don't think that a disdain for science has much to do with that....
 

Lynx

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That's pretty dang funny, since YOU were the one that started the exchange in an attempt to prove me wrong! Lol

You are REALLY doing ALOT of projecting today today friend. A search of one's own heart might be in order. Just sayin.

How's that for a theory?
Nope. You peed on Dude's thread. That's what started this whole mess.

All I did was pop in to laugh at how deep you're digging to prop up your theories about eeeeeevil science.
 

Magenta

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I disagree.... we are turning into a third world country because of the liberal left.... the ones that brought us woke theory and critical race theory being taught in school instead of science, math, etc.... the same left that brought us totally open borders, allowing at least 250,000 mostly illiterate (at best) an/or criminal (at worst) to come in PER MONTH. The vast majority of these people expect "free stuff" when they get here, and the liberal left gives it to em.... They totally drain the hospital systems, school systems, and communities where they expect subsidized, if not free, housing.
None of them understand, or care about the American system of being able to pursue your dream, they expect it to be given to them. They also do not understand how the government works, and will likely vote for the side that promises them more free stuff.... the liberal left....
The same liberal left that is bringing the destruction of the family unit by promoting and encouraging transgenderism, homosexuality, and over all lack of any moral values.... along with the murder of millions of unborn human beings....

Yeah.... I don't think that a disdain for science has much to do with that....
More a disdain for history... and reality :censored:
 

Dude653

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Since when is stating a fact creating a straw man?

You kick against facts.

Not a very prudent thing to do.

For someone so invested in science.
You haven't presented any facts
 

Dude653

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I disagree.... we are turning into a third world country because of the liberal left.... the ones that brought us woke theory and critical race theory being taught in school instead of science, math, etc.... the same left that brought us totally open borders, allowing at least 250,000 mostly illiterate (at best) an/or criminal (at worst) to come in PER MONTH. The vast majority of these people expect "free stuff" when they get here, and the liberal left gives it to em.... They totally drain the hospital systems, school systems, and communities where they expect subsidized, if not free, housing.
None of them understand, or care about the American system of being able to pursue your dream, they expect it to be given to them. They also do not understand how the government works, and will likely vote for the side that promises them more free stuff.... the liberal left....
The same liberal left that is bringing the destruction of the family unit by promoting and encouraging transgenderism, homosexuality, and over all lack of any moral values.... along with the murder of millions of unborn human beings....

Yeah.... I don't think that a disdain for science has much to do with that....
And you are also going on ignore
 

PennEd

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Nope. You peed on Dude's thread. That's what started this whole mess.

All I did was pop in to laugh at how deep you're digging to prop up your theories about eeeeeevil science.
I didn’t pee on nothin. (Is your bladder as weak as your intellect?) more projection! Geesh!

Who are you? Captain underpants, sworn cc op thread defender?

YOU initiated a derogatory exchange and then somehow expected the person you attacked wasn’t going to defend themselves?
 

Magenta

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You haven't presented any facts

The Higgs boson was first theorized in the 1960s, and officially confirmed to exist in 2013:)
Well, they call it empty. Just means they cannot detect anything there, which does not mean nothing is there.
Which I have never disputed.

Doesn't mean they have never been wrong, though...
Yep. They keep thinking they have an answer when they don't.

They claim theories cannot be wrong, and yet they have been.

And that's how science works.
Hydrogen is the most prolific element in the universe (around 70%?):)
Since when is stating a fact creating a straw man?

You kick against facts.

Not a very prudent thing to do.

For someone so invested in science.
^ Those are all facts. You are a liar. Another fact.
 

hornetguy

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You try to confuse me with facts..... I'll show you.... I'll IGNORE you..... so THERE! :ROFL::ROFL:

Dude.... we've been around and around too many times in the past for you to just give up and ignore me.....

I mean, "c'mon, man!"
 

Dude653

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^ Those are all facts. You are a liar. Another fact.
Don't cut yourself on all that edge over there also please present a screenshot where I said theories can't be wrong? Because I didn't say that
 

Magenta

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Don't cut yourself on all that edge over there also please present a screenshot where I said theories can't be wrong? Because I didn't say that
I did not say you said that. Just another straw man from you.

Which is funny given that I presented it as a FACT, after which you falsely accused
me of creating straw men, then turned around and claimed I presented no facts.


You would make a lousy scientist.
 

Lynx

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And you are also going on ignore
I dunno Dude... That might be a bad idea. Hornet, despite his nick, seems to be one of the more level headed people here. You might be cutting your own nose off to spite your face.
 

Dude653

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I did not say you said that. Just another straw man from you.

Which is funny given that I presented it as a FACT, after which you falsely accused
me of creating straw men, then turned around and claimed I presented no facts.


You would make a lousy scientist.
. You made a claim that I said that theories can't be wrong. I never said that
 

Dude653

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I made no such claim, Mister Liar.
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Ok.... You said "they" claim that a theory can't be wrong. I'm going to need a citation because of my knowledge no scientist has ever said that