Why did God need to become Man?
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They believe women's DNA doesn't contain any sin, somehow
I'm with you, if every human has a sinful nature, Jesus would have 50% sinful DNA or nature from his mother side
So many can't grasp that he was like us in EVERY WAY and say sin DNA only comes from fathers sperm and since Jesus didn't come from human male sperm, he can't have any of Mary's sinful nature DNA
Hebrews 2:17
Therefore, it was necessary for him to be made in every respect like us, his brothers and sisters, so that he could be our merciful and faithful High Priest before God. Then he could offer a sacrifice that would take away the sins of the people.
Could someone parse the Greek for me and translate what "like us in every way" means?
Therefore, it was necessary for him to be made in every respect like us, his brothers and sisters, so that he could be our merciful and faithful High Priest before God. Then he could offer a sacrifice that would take away the sins of the people.
Could someone parse the Greek for me and translate what "like us in every way" means?
Jesus of Nazareth was FULLY sinless Man and FULLY God at one and the same time. Any idea short of this is not from Scripture but from the devil.
Your claim that Jesus has a human sin nature is completely false. Christ could not possibly be the Savior of the world if He was the same as all other humans. So you are here to simply troll Christians and stir the pot.
Your claim that Jesus has a human sin nature is completely false. Christ could not possibly be the Savior of the world if He was the same as all other humans. So you are here to simply troll Christians and stir the pot.
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He did not become a man. If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God. God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. And God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. As it is written, behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
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Jesus walked on water and turned water into wine. Jesus knew the past and the future exactly. Obviously, Jesus was operating at a level far above our own. Jesus also emptied Himself and became one of us according to Philippians 2. Exactly how all this is understood is way above my pay grade.
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Nay, sir. There is no problem with God's words. Because they are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. God did not become a man. The Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. And God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. As it is written, God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself. And again, beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
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Here is a very serous problem to consider.
God told Moses when asked wat to call Him, I will be What I will be. I believe this on faith. Do not limit our Maker as being only as words have elated to some and not others. He will be What He will be. Start with Father, Son and Hoy Spirit.
God told Moses when asked wat to call Him, I will be What I will be. I believe this on faith. Do not limit our Maker as being only as words have elated to some and not others. He will be What He will be. Start with Father, Son and Hoy Spirit.
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That is true Nehemiah6.
The only way mankind could have salvation is there had to be a sinless man that fulfilled the law without fault which Jesus said not one tittle or jot shall pass from the law until all is fulfilled.
Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins but in the Old Testament the blood of animals could only cover their sins and there was a remembrance of them every year in which they had to be covered again for the blood of animals could not completely take away their sins.
But the blood of Christ completely takes away sins.
This plan was before God laid down the foundation of the world.
That is why the Bible says Jesus is the beginning of creation even though He was not born until 4000 years later.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word with God, and the Word was God.
All things were created by Him and without Him not one thing was created that was created.
And the Word became flesh.
In the beginning was the plan of God to come in the future in flesh, and that plan was with God before He laid down the foundation of the world, and that plan was God manifest in the flesh.
All things were created with the plan of God to come in flesh and without that plan God would of not created anything He created because Jesus is the reason creation is successful, eternal life, and judging the angels and people.
The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world.
God calls things that have not happened yet as though they already happened for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future it is the same as if it happened in the beginning for it will surely come to pass with no hindrance.
In John 17 Jesus said the Father loved Him in the beginning and then said that the glory that He had before the world was He wants the saints to have the same glory and that they may be where He is at and behold His glory for the Father loved Him before the foundation of the world.
Jesus was speaking as a man because the glory He had at the beginning could not be talking about Him being God for the saints could not receive that glory but Jesus as a man was praying that the saints could be in heaven with Him and behold His glory as He sits on the throne in heaven.
God came as a man and that plan was already in the beginning but it was the same thing as if it already happened.
The only way mankind could have salvation is there had to be a sinless man that fulfilled the law without fault which Jesus said not one tittle or jot shall pass from the law until all is fulfilled.
Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins but in the Old Testament the blood of animals could only cover their sins and there was a remembrance of them every year in which they had to be covered again for the blood of animals could not completely take away their sins.
But the blood of Christ completely takes away sins.
This plan was before God laid down the foundation of the world.
That is why the Bible says Jesus is the beginning of creation even though He was not born until 4000 years later.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word with God, and the Word was God.
All things were created by Him and without Him not one thing was created that was created.
And the Word became flesh.
In the beginning was the plan of God to come in the future in flesh, and that plan was with God before He laid down the foundation of the world, and that plan was God manifest in the flesh.
All things were created with the plan of God to come in flesh and without that plan God would of not created anything He created because Jesus is the reason creation is successful, eternal life, and judging the angels and people.
The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world.
God calls things that have not happened yet as though they already happened for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future it is the same as if it happened in the beginning for it will surely come to pass with no hindrance.
In John 17 Jesus said the Father loved Him in the beginning and then said that the glory that He had before the world was He wants the saints to have the same glory and that they may be where He is at and behold His glory for the Father loved Him before the foundation of the world.
Jesus was speaking as a man because the glory He had at the beginning could not be talking about Him being God for the saints could not receive that glory but Jesus as a man was praying that the saints could be in heaven with Him and behold His glory as He sits on the throne in heaven.
God came as a man and that plan was already in the beginning but it was the same thing as if it already happened.
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Why did God need to become Man?
In order that He might offer Himself as a sinless sacrifice for man's sinfulness. Also, He provided an example for us as well as providing us with many teachings. He gave us insights into Himself that are not always obvious from studying the OT alone.
Agree. To deny His deity is to deny His Gospel. He and the Father are necessarily One.
Correct.
Praise the Lord!
Amen. Good post.
In order that He might offer Himself as a sinless sacrifice for man's sinfulness. Also, He provided an example for us as well as providing us with many teachings. He gave us insights into Himself that are not always obvious from studying the OT alone.
Agree. To deny His deity is to deny His Gospel. He and the Father are necessarily One.
Correct.
Praise the Lord!
Amen. Good post.
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Perhaps we should appreciate you for your honesty, but...
To insinuate that God is not infinitely intelligent and infinitely loving is... not good.
These things are in no way confusing or hard to digest for those who have tasted of the goodness and grace of our loving Lord.
God desires that men come of their own free will. Any man who goes to Hell goes because he has chosen to. No sympathy for the Devil and his children from me. I love my almighty and wise Master and I know He loves me. If many go to Hell, that is not God's fault. I personally think that God's plans and ways are nothing but good and just and far more intelligent than mine.
Job 40
1 Moreover the LORD answered Job, and said,
2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.
3 Then Job answered the LORD, and said,
4 Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
To insinuate that God is not infinitely intelligent and infinitely loving is... not good.
These things are in no way confusing or hard to digest for those who have tasted of the goodness and grace of our loving Lord.
God desires that men come of their own free will. Any man who goes to Hell goes because he has chosen to. No sympathy for the Devil and his children from me. I love my almighty and wise Master and I know He loves me. If many go to Hell, that is not God's fault. I personally think that God's plans and ways are nothing but good and just and far more intelligent than mine.
Job 40
1 Moreover the LORD answered Job, and said,
2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.
3 Then Job answered the LORD, and said,
4 Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
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Amen! The Finished Work Of God, The SON, Who "Became A Man!":
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Scripture Clearly Teaches:
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock,
over the which The Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the
church of God, Which HE Hath Purchased With HIS OWN BLOOD!"
The Only hope of ETERNAL Life Is believing in the Deity Of The
LORD Jesus Christ, HIS BLOOD, And His Resurrection, According
To The Scriptures!:
Grace Peace, And JOY, in Christ, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided!
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Scripture Clearly Teaches:
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock,
over the which The Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the
church of God, Which HE Hath Purchased With HIS OWN BLOOD!"
The Only hope of ETERNAL Life Is believing in the Deity Of The
LORD Jesus Christ, HIS BLOOD, And His Resurrection, According
To The Scriptures!:
Grace Peace, And JOY, in Christ, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided!