Senate passes same-sex marriage bill with bipartisan support

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They can, but they didn't I must have a look. Only one person mentioned it in a pet store. I made a comment on their FB page and the head of the company called me. He said they didn't forbid people coming in the store without a mask and almost begged me to shop there again. The mask/ scarf whatever people were wearing was nothing more than a placebo. It wasn't protecting anyone from anything. People were wearing it wrong, they kept slipping so you were always touching it. It was all in your mind. The same thing as one way arrows down the store and plastic partitions. Then there was the crazy idea to eat in a tent because apparently the inside of a tent isn't "indoors". So much stupidity. smh When I saw politicians doing whatever they wanted I figured I was going to do the same. No one bothered me after a while, they knew I wasn't going to mask.

What bothered me besides the stupidity, was the ignorance of people. An older lady was standing in front of me at a dollar store with a cart. She was slightly over the "line" and the cashier yelled at her in front of everyone. She was so embarrassed and she turned to me and said she was sorry, she didn't notice she was over the line. And I said " Yes, but she wouldn't talk to you like that if you were a protester"!! When it came time for me to buy my items the older lady looked back and said "I wonder when this will end". And I said "When we stop supporting this foolishness, when we stop buying that's when it will stop. " I dropped my items on the counter and said to the cashier "not one more cent until they stop, not one!!" I walked away and didn't buy there again until they stopped the stupidity. Americans need to use their brains and stop being sheep. I don't know what it's gonna take to shake some people, but I'm not going down so easily the next time round. You may have to be sending me a cake with a file in it. I'm not falling for it a second time, believe that.

I thought Dude said they were Catholics, not Christians. Although many Catholics are Christians it is not necessary to be a Catholic.

I think it is easily provable that the Nazi's were not atheists. They definitely believed in God just as the Demons do.

It is justifiable based on what?

You can read John Stuart Mill and see where Harris gets his utilitarian thinking but many philosophers have rightly shown the problems with this approach.

So far not one Atheist/Agnostic that I know has solved the problem of where morality comes from apart from a Moral Law Giver.

"Torture is justifiable" is a not an empirical fact which describes ...... it is a prescriptive statement, while it may be true in certain situations it is in the better common good to torture, that is a moral position not a logic position.

Like I stated you cannot draw any conclusions based on people who live in a society who are already inculcated with what is right and wrong.

You know it is wrong to steal because we live in a society that teaches that.

So I guess you profile is wrong it states you are Christian?

It is justifiable based on what?

You can read John Stuart Mill and see where Harris gets his utilitarian thinking but many philosophers have rightly shown the problems with this approach.

So far not one Atheist/Agnostic that I know has solved the problem of where morality comes from apart from a Moral Law Giver.

"Torture is justifiable" is a not an empirical fact which describes ...... it is a prescriptive statement, while it may be true in certain situations it is in the better common good to torture, that is a moral position not a logic position.

Like I stated you cannot draw any conclusions based on people who live in a society who are already inculcated with what is right and wrong.

You know it is wrong to steal because we live in a society that teaches that.

So I guess you profile is wrong it states you are Christian?

Good for you. Though I would have left my cart and walked away immediately.

His point was it's a moral gray area that's debatable like the trolley problem
So just my subjective opinion but if I knew torturing one guy would save a thousand lives, I would probably do it

I wanted the cashier to know she was ignorant, that I wasn't buying their junk until they dropped the masks and she had to put the product back herself. I made my point to anyone that was listening. I will not buy in places that force masks. Others want to use them, fine, I won't.

His point was it's a moral gray area that's debatable like the trolley problem
So just my subjective opinion but if I knew torturing one guy would save a thousand lives, I would probably do it

How would you know that unless you were omniscient?

Have fun with him. I lose patience too easily with a ride that keeps going around the same path over and over and over and over.... I have a day to get to.

He will not get this. This debate will go around in circles. No matter what you hit him with, he either won't respond to it, or he'll continue with his point as if you never said what you said. It's hard to argue with people who see the world upside down, and insist that you are walking on your heads.

How would you know that unless you were omniscient?

Absolutely agree, I was just having a moment of boredom.

I think I have reached my frustration point.

But quite sad really, seems to me always that inability to humble oneself before one's Creator.

What if he told me he knows where it is but just refuses to talk

People will lie to get out of torture.

Seems very weird that someone would say something that effectively means "torture me and I'll tell you".

People are just butt hurt because I disagree on the same sex marriage thing.
But people are allowed to have different opinions. That's why it's called freedom of speech
I will stand right along beside you for your right to follow your religion and live your life accordingly but I won't stand by you to try to force your beliefs on others

Human well-being like you can't just walk into my house and kill me and take everything on without going to jail
Or you can't just go around sexually assaulting people without going to jail
Or you can't just walk around punching people in the face ect

WB: You've given me and other readers YOUR ill-defined definition of 'well-being.'

I asked you for how ALL people can arrive at the same definition of well-being in the context of Richard Dawkins view that a human foetus is of no more importance than the foetus of a pig.

I care about him. I know what he has gone through and sympathize.