What's your thoughts on Enoch

Should more words from Enoch be included in our the bible
But what about the Enoch? Most of us don’t know a whole lot about Enoch, the other person to be taken straight to heaven. He appears in Genesis, and just as soon as he steps onto the scene, he steps into heaven.

In this article, we’ll discuss what the Bible says about Enoch, the extra-biblical information we have about Enoch, and why this matters to us.

What Does the Bible Say about Enoch?
From the Bible, we know that Enoch was Adam’s great-great-great-great grandson (and Noah’s great grandfather) who lived a holy and faithful life to the Lord (Genesis 5). He also becomes the father of Methuselah, the longest-living man (Genesis 5:27). Throughout his three-plus centuries on earth, he has numerous other offspring.

After 365 years on earth, God “takes (him) away” (Genesis 5:24). The verb for “take” appears to mean snatched up or carried away. Perhaps similar to the way God had taken away Elijah the prophet.

We see Enoch later in the “Hall of Faith” in Hebrews 11, listed with the other greats such as Abraham.


Because of his great faith, he appears to escape death.

But why? The other greats in the Hebrews 11 Hall of Faith had to experience death. Why did this enigmatic figure get away from it (again, if we don’t operate under the opinion that Enoch is one of the two witnesses).

First, as argued here, Enoch is an example (Hebrews 11:5) of what will happen during the rapture. During this event, God will take believers into heaven during the End Times.

Christians differ in opinion as to where exactly the Rapture will take place during the End Times timeline (before the seven-year tribulation, halfway during the seven-year trial, after the seven-year tribulation, etc.), but at one point during the End Times, God will rapture believers, just as he had with Enoch.

Second, Enoch lived a few hundred years before the Flood. We see the inhabitants of the earth descend into utter moral depravity during this time period.

Considering that the people back then lived for hundreds of years, some Christians have speculated due to a vapor canopy that surrounded the earth that blocked out harmful Gamma rays and produced a temperate climate that perhaps God took Enoch into heaven to avoid the Flood that would come a few hundred years later.

Third, we see a faithful man living amongst a wicked generation, like Elijah during the time of Ahab.

Elijah is the only prophet of God left (1 Kings 18:22), outnumbered by 450 prophets of the enemy.

What Extra-Biblical Information Do We Have on Enoch?
Depending on what Christian tradition you came from, you may consider the Book of Enoch to be canonical. But in this article, we’ll operate under the assumption that the canonical Bible is composed of 66 books, placing the Book of Enoch in the pseudepigrapha.


In other words, an author who called himself Enoch wrote the Book of Enoch, but it was likely just a man going by a pseudonym.

We do see that the Bible actually quotes from the Book of Enoch. We see such references in Jude 1:14-15 and 2 Peter. Both of these passages appear to be plucking portions of tradition from the Book of Enoch. We do have to keep in mind, though, that the apostles did quote from extra-biblical sources, as discussed in this video.

In either case, the Book of Enoch is an apocalyptic text which discusses the end of the world, angels, the Nephilim, prophecies, and punishments for the wicked post-Flood. It’s somewhat of a parallel text to what we see happening in Revelation. As Christians, we live in an increasingly morally depraved world, which will come to an end.

You can read a copy of the Book of Enoch here. But make sure to do so with caution and discernment.

Why Does Enoch's Bible Story Matter?
We can see parallels in Enoch’s story with the story of Revelation yet to come. In a wicked world, we are called to be righteous and to walk in faith with God. Although many of us (if not all of us, as we do not know the true time Jesus will come back) will experience the pangs of death, Christians in the End Times will experience a rapture. It’s also important to note that in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 both Christians who have previously died and those still alive will participate in this event together.


So, in either case, we will experience the rapture. During that time, like Enoch, Christians will be caught up in the air.

We can also see God being able to speak through even non-biblical sources (operating under the viewpoint that the Book of Enoch is a pseudepigraphical work). We do have to exercise discernment, to siphon what is true and what is not. But as the apostles quoted from secular philosophers and poets, we can find kernels of God’s truth in other literature as well.

Friend, Even while Paul was writing letters to the churches, there were enemies who claimed to be Paul who sent letters to them as well. He addressed the matter and referenced his signature. Ie. Galatians.
The so called "Book of Enoch"s are all fake.
That will upset the cults and masons who exalt one of the three volumes I've seen. I point this out to Christians because few preachers seem to know anything about the issue, while the fringe groups on the late shows push this stuff.

A late best friend was a former high ranking mason who used to debate me on this issue.
It's not an issue. The Books of Enoch are obviously not inspired by God. Anybody can put a title on a book and an authorship. That doesn't make it so. Jude never endorsed these fictional books.

The reason "most"(?), No ALL don't know much about him is because God only provided mentions of him in Genesis chapter 4, 5 Jude 1 and Hebrews 11. That's all we have. People start all kinds of theories and legends that start to sound like a B movie from China.
They try to integrate fiction of Giants that are taller than dinosaurs with the pure and complete Bible. What emerges is fodder for the atheists to mock Biblical Christianity over.

When you read the Bible from cover to cover, you notice that There is a clear difference between those books and letters and the Books of Enoch. You notice the difference don't you?

My senses tell me the book of enoch is missing out of the bible because it favours a pre trib rapture 🙂

Fundaamental, you are correct for it speaks of a Tribulation in a remote generation

Should more words from Enoch be included in our the bible

I have learned that the book of enoch not written by enoch but about enoch is missing from our bible

I have also learned just recently that Job and Samuel and now Enoch all suggest the same thing about the foundations of the earth being created as a separated creation to the earth.

But now I read all this.

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/bible/who-was-enoch-in-the-bible.html?amp=1

Christianity.com
Who Was Enoch in the Bible?


Who Was Enoch in the Bible?
Only two people in the Bible - Enoch and Elijah - appear to be taken straight to heaven, without having to experience death (if you don’t speculate that these two people are the witnesses in Revelation who do in fact experience death briefly in Revelation 11:7-12).

Most of us know the second one, Elijah. This famous prophet received a heavenly chariot of fire that took him to heaven after his ministry had finished, leaving Elisha to carry on the mission (2 Kings 2).

But what about the Enoch? Most of us don’t know a whole lot about Enoch, the other person to be taken straight to heaven. He appears in Genesis, and just as soon as he steps onto the scene, he steps into heaven.

In this article, we’ll discuss what the Bible says about Enoch, the extra-biblical information we have about Enoch, and why this matters to us.

What Does the Bible Say about Enoch?
From the Bible, we know that Enoch was Adam’s great-great-great-great grandson (and Noah’s great grandfather) who lived a holy and faithful life to the Lord (Genesis 5). He also becomes the father of Methuselah, the longest-living man (Genesis 5:27). Throughout his three-plus centuries on earth, he has numerous other offspring.

After 365 years on earth, God “takes (him) away” (Genesis 5:24). The verb for “take” appears to mean snatched up or carried away. Perhaps similar to the way God had taken away Elijah the prophet.

We see Enoch later in the “Hall of Faith” in Hebrews 11, listed with the other greats such as Abraham.


Because of his great faith, he appears to escape death.

But why? The other greats in the Hebrews 11 Hall of Faith had to experience death. Why did this enigmatic figure get away from it (again, if we don’t operate under the opinion that Enoch is one of the two witnesses).

First, as argued here, Enoch is an example (Hebrews 11:5) of what will happen during the rapture. During this event, God will take believers into heaven during the End Times.

Christians differ in opinion as to where exactly the Rapture will take place during the End Times timeline (before the seven-year tribulation, halfway during the seven-year trial, after the seven-year tribulation, etc.), but at one point during the End Times, God will rapture believers, just as he had with Enoch.

Second, Enoch lived a few hundred years before the Flood. We see the inhabitants of the earth descend into utter moral depravity during this time period.

Considering that the people back then lived for hundreds of years, some Christians have speculated due to a vapor canopy that surrounded the earth that blocked out harmful Gamma rays and produced a temperate climate that perhaps God took Enoch into heaven to avoid the Flood that would come a few hundred years later.

Third, we see a faithful man living amongst a wicked generation, like Elijah during the time of Ahab.

Elijah is the only prophet of God left (1 Kings 18:22), outnumbered by 450 prophets of the enemy.

What Extra-Biblical Information Do We Have on Enoch?
Depending on what Christian tradition you came from, you may consider the Book of Enoch to be canonical. But in this article, we’ll operate under the assumption that the canonical Bible is composed of 66 books, placing the Book of Enoch in the pseudepigrapha.


In other words, an author who called himself Enoch wrote the Book of Enoch, but it was likely just a man going by a pseudonym.

We do see that the Bible actually quotes from the Book of Enoch. We see such references in Jude 1:14-15 and 2 Peter. Both of these passages appear to be plucking portions of tradition from the Book of Enoch. We do have to keep in mind, though, that the apostles did quote from extra-biblical sources, as discussed in this video.

In either case, the Book of Enoch is an apocalyptic text which discusses the end of the world, angels, the Nephilim, prophecies, and punishments for the wicked post-Flood. It’s somewhat of a parallel text to what we see happening in Revelation. As Christians, we live in an increasingly morally depraved world, which will come to an end.

You can read a copy of the Book of Enoch here. But make sure to do so with caution and discernment.

Why Does Enoch's Bible Story Matter?
We can see parallels in Enoch’s story with the story of Revelation yet to come. In a wicked world, we are called to be righteous and to walk in faith with God. Although many of us (if not all of us, as we do not know the true time Jesus will come back) will experience the pangs of death, Christians in the End Times will experience a rapture. It’s also important to note that in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 both Christians who have previously died and those still alive will participate in this event together.


So, in either case, we will experience the rapture. During that time, like Enoch, Christians will be caught up in the air.

We can also see God being able to speak through even non-biblical sources (operating under the viewpoint that the Book of Enoch is a pseudepigraphical work). We do have to exercise discernment, to siphon what is true and what is not. But as the apostles quoted from secular philosophers and poets, we can find kernels of God’s truth in other literature as well.

Enoch did not write the book of Enoch

true

But I did quote that in the OP

But could we say that alone is good reason when the book of Job was not wrote by job

Job and Enoch are two different books, are they not? What is the difference between them?

Job is wisdom literature, masterpieces of world literature.


the book of Enoch is one of the Pseudepigrapha books


Job is not.

The book of Enoch should be compared with the Book of Jude to see the contrast in the text and context.

One Jude is known as Scripture Enoch was never considered scripture.


"The answer is that Jesus and the apostles never called it Scripture. It is important to note that a few early church fathers highly valued the book of Enoch, but they never referred to it as Scripture. Therefore, we cannot view it as authoritative since it is not the Word of God."(References:1. James H Charlesworth. The Old Testament Pseudepigrapha. Doubleday & Company. 1983. vol. 1, pp. 5-89.)

I guess if where going to chuck books out of the bible for a few sentences about purgatory.

I guess if where going to chuck books out of the bible for a few sentences about purgatory.

Shouldnt we chuck Corinthians out for in accurate translation about spiritual gifts leading people to become a cessationist

Haven't a lot of new translations corrected there mistakes as a result

Why can't they do that with allready chucked out books ?

there's so many errors it's really a waste of time. and some really key factors are messed up too. nothing is removed by way of Salvation, thankfully, most translations have that right. but you will see any one of us copy/paste Verses that don't match the KJV. we all know there's errors and we have also confidently feel, for the most part, by finding truer and more original copies, that we are closer to the entire view of the Canon. but discussions like this that bring outside sources in is very beneficial.

they say the Greatest trick ever played on humanity was Satan convincing people he doesn't exist.

i say, it's God using non believers to factually have written accounts about Great Earthquakes and sudden darkness reaching even to where this person, Thallus was at, Greece, on the Day of the Crucifixion. there's over 50 accounts of people who don't believe but were keeping record of interesting events happening during their lifetimes. and these lifetimes had Jesus. even Josephus says there was claims Jesus not just rose from the dead but was seen by hundreds. Paul says same thing, imagine that?

Enoch was never chucked out of the Bible, since it was not considered inspired. It was added.