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Wansvic said:
Acts 22:16 records the instruction Paul received from Ananias concerning water baptism in the name of Jesus in order to wash away his sins.

Romans 6:3-6 Paul's explanation of what occurs upon obedience to water baptism.

Acts 19:1-6 Paul rebaptizes 12 Ephesians in the name of the Lord Jesus (water baptism) and assists in their receiving the Holy Ghost as well.
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I feel like i am talking to a way

Paul did not contradict himself. He did nto contradict jesus.

Romans 6 has nothing to do with water baptism. It is the baptism of God. Only God can baptize you into God.

Again, Feel free to earn your salvation.. I will continue to live in Gods grace having repented i could never earn his grace.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
I was talking about Hitler baptism along with Stalin and Lenjns baptisms when you addressed me with Godwin's law which concerns Hitler.


Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies,[1] is an Internet adage asserting: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
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You are perpetually clueless. I'm done with this.
 
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Shilohsfoal

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Wansvic said:
Many things in the OT, such as the flood you mention, were foreshadows that pointed to what later became the NT water baptism for remission of sin.

Water baptizing in the name of Jesus means to invoke the name of Jesus while administering water baptism rather than saying I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The apostles obeyed Jesus command in Matthew 28:19 by water baptizing people invoking His name. This truth is revealed in all the detailed accounts of water baptism's administered by the apostles. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-7, 22:16)

The Bible states that in Jesus dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. (Col. 2:9) The Godhead is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The Bible also says that everything in word and deed is to be done in the name of Jesus. (Col. 3:17)
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Yes,I know of a lot of people who come in Jesus name claiming to be in Christ.They are doing exactly what you say they should be doing in Jesus name.


Mathew 24
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
 
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NightTwister said:
You are perpetually clueless. I'm done with this.
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Perhaps you should not have entered the water baptism discussion.Yiu obviously don't know anything about it or the people such as Hitler who are Baptised in the water.
 
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Wansvic said:
Scripture reveals over and over that water baptism is not a mere symbol. It is upon belief and obedience to the command that God brings about what He promised, individual's sins are washed away. Jesus' sacrifice made this possible for all humanity, yet not all will receive it.
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Who cares? When you’re on you death bed and all of the sudden you want to get baptized and can’t, then I guess you’ll end up in Hell.
 
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Burn1986 said:
Who cares? When you’re on you death bed and all of the sudden you want to get baptized and can’t, then I guess you’ll end up in Hell.
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Indeed it is faith and belief in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ that places us into His His incorruptible body and assures us of life ever after, and not some dipping or dunking or being sprinkled with earthly water that saves us.
 
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There is again the question of who is receiving the Spirit in passages of scripture. If an entire group receives the Spirit. ..is this eternal salvation or a group of already saved people becoming a local church?
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
It's very simple.

God baptised the gentiles in the holy spirit without them being baptized in water.God can actually do that .
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God commands us to be water baptized so that we may receive the Holy Spirit. God actually said that.

Acts 2:38

Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift.
 
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Lamar said:
God commands us to be water baptized so that we may receive the Holy Spirit. God actually said that.

Acts 2:38

Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift.
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So, no “death bed” conversions. And the guy on the cross with Jesus actually went to Hell. Jesus lied I guess.
 
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Burn1986 said:
Who cares? When you’re on you death bed and all of the sudden you want to get baptized and can’t, then I guess you’ll end up in Hell.
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Who cares?

God cares.

King Saul did not care enough to obey God. Look how that ended for him. It was just a few sheep.

Uzzah did not seem concerned enough to obey. Look how that ended for him. But I thought I was helping.

Moses struck the rock. Look how that ended for him. Who cares if I hit it or not.
 
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Lamar said:
Who cares?

God cares.

King Saul did not care enough to obey God. Look how that ended for him. It was just a few sheep.

Uzzah did not seem concerned enough to obey. Look how that ended for him. But I thought I was helping.

Moses struck the rock. Look how that ended for him. Who cares if I hit it or not.
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Okay, so if you’re not water baptized then you’re going to Hell, There Lamar, we solved it. Case closed.
 
Lamar

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Burn1986 said:
So, no “death bed” conversions. And the guy on the cross with Jesus actually went to Hell. Jesus lied I guess.
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Jesus can bestow the remission of sins to anyone, including one or both of the thieves.

It is not our place to negate what is clearly written in scripture to protect our theology.

Your reasoning is carnal.
 
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Lamar said:
Jesus can bestow the remission of sins to anyone, including one or both of the thieves.

It is not our place to negate what is clearly written in scripture to protect our theology.

Your reasoning is carnal.
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Okay, you went on and on about water baptism trying to say you have to have it to go to Heaven. What are you saying now? Water baptism to go to Heaven or not?
 
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Burn1986 said:
Okay, you went on and on about water baptism trying to say you have to have it to go to Heaven. What are you saying now? Water baptism to go to Heaven or not?
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Hey sis.;) Of course not.
 
Lamar

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Burn1986 said:
Okay, so if you’re not water baptized then you’re going to Hell, There Lamar, we solved it. Case closed.
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We are destined for Hell because of our sins.

We are saved because of the remission of our sins.

We may debate how we obtain this remission but not the need for the remission.
 
Lamar

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wattie said:
Repent is not a behaviour.. a work.. it is a 'change of mind, heart' from unbelief to belief.
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Repentance is an action.


Luke 13:3

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I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.

Whether or not mental or physical, it is a action.

With consequences.
 
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Shilohsfoal

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Lamar said:
God commands us to be water baptized so that we may receive the Holy Spirit. God actually said that.

Acts 2:38

Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift.
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Perhaps you have not been paying attention and that is why you have no idea the gentiles receive the holy spirit without being Baptised in water.

You should pay closer attention to the conversation before sticking your foot in your mouth.
What Peter said was proven wrong by God.
 
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