How Much Time, Effort, and Money Do We Put Into a Body That's Dying Anyway? (Replacing a Tooth?) All Are Welcome to Answer.

I'm certainly not someone special or important -- just your average everyday sinner -- but for whatever reason, Judas' words have alway stuck with me my entire life -- "Couldn't this money be used to help others, rather than to feed my own vanity?" And it's something I contemplate through many of my own self-care decisions.

he said women need to be "picky" in order to hold men to a moral standard they might not adhere to otherwise. The upshot of it was that it forces men to want to be better versions of themselves. More mature and responsible. Not boys refusing to grow up...

I love Jordan Peterson. I think he is a very brilliant man. I may have seen the video you mention here, or a similar one where he spoke of women's preferences when it comes to choosing a mate. Though I seem to be remembering it differently, because what I recall is that he said women need to be "picky" in order to hold men to a moral standard they might not adhere to otherwise. The upshot of it was that it forces men to want to be better versions of themselves. More mature and responsible. Not boys refusing to grow up...

You do realize that Judas was the bad guy in that story right? Not that lots of christians don't adopt the same pharisaical attitude, but it's probably good to remember that God gives good gifts and when he was laying down the law he only asked for 10 percent and to not take advantage of the poor and needy. So if you can confidently say that you're giving and not taking advantage of people then enjoy the rest, just don't use it in a way that dishonors God.

The only other thought I have on this thread is that when I lose all my teeth I'm gonna enjoy copious amounts of ice cream, milkshakes, and biscuits and gravy.

I don't agree with that. That's what a lot of the poor in third world countries do. When they get down to not so many teeth, they try to get the rest pulled if they can. You can turn just about anything to mush so you can easily get a nutritional diet. Of course the poor in third world countries often don't get a nutritional diet, but they don't slowly starve, either, at least not in most cases.

It must be a different one. This was speaking to the continual degradation of men, i.e. their inadequacy to meet up to any woman's (fanciful) standard.

No doubt our esteemed Jordan Peterson has done many talks around the same subject from different perspectives, as he was a clinical psychologist for many decades counseling countless young men on various issues... I do wonder now what his advice to incels might have been. With apologies to our dear sister Seoulsearch..

And now I wonder if Lady Magenta was hinting that I'm an incel -- and then apologizing.

Just kidding!

We ALL know I actually AM an incel, and no amount of apologizing can ever fix that!

No worries, Lady Magenta. These threads are all about going down rabbit trails! And the added information might be helping others as well.

Ah!!! Eh??? Oh oh oh!!! LOL!!! I suppose I should have articulated/stipulated male incels!

If you'd be willing, I would love to hear about it, whether here or in another thread.

Yes, because we all know that males are incels.

I'm obviously an incel-lette.

No doubt our esteemed Jordan Peterson has done many talks around the same subject from different perspectives, as he was a clinical psychologist for many decades counseling countless young men on various issues... I do wonder now what his advice to incels might have been. With apologies to our dear sister Seoulsearch..

This is the first I've ever heard of the term "incel" and am reluctant to look it up for concern that AI will send me a flood of suggestions for view. Nevertheless, I'm fairly certain that there isn't a demographic that doesn't have its specific psychological quirks among them.

INCEL - INvoluntary CELibate, guys who can't find a girl who will have sex with them. So they get real mad at girls and start talking bad about them. Basically the romance version of sour grapes.

With the internet age they can also find lots of other incels and all get mad at girls together. So these days they, like all other groups, can get a good confirmation bias going.

Wow, am I ever behind the times.

Here I thought an incel was just a regular garden variety rebel. 😳

Well, count me out from being the female variety then.

My single status is a choice, and I find plenty of other things to get mad about other than just boys. 😬

Hey Everyone,

I was debating on whether to post this in Singles or the Family Forum, because I'd really like to hear answers from a variety of people -- married, single and looking, or single and content.

"How Much Time, Effort, and Money Do We Put into a Body That's Dying Anyway?" is a subject that has an inumerable amount of angles, and is something I contemplate more and more as I get older. Where is the line between taking Godly care of our bodies, and just plain vanity?

I think there's an added curve thrown in when you're single and still have a hope of possibly meeting someone. Let's be honest -- if you're single and hoping to attract a spouse, looks do matter -- sometimes ESPECIALLY to Christians, because they are told God only wants THE BEST for them (and for many, they believe that includes looks.) As for myself, I can only work on me to the best of what God enables me, and if it's God's will, maybe meet someone else who is doing the same.

One thing I ponder is if I encounter health problems in the future (though I try to be proactive in staying healthy,) my decisions of which treatments, or whether I have any at all, would all depend on my situation, budget, and how it would affect my family. We could go down the most serious rabbit holes like cancer or chronic illness, but I wanted to present an example of something I recently observed.

I know someone who recently had to have a tooth pulled and decided not to replace it. It was towards the middle of the mouth, didn't show, and wasn't going to cause any problems if left unfilled. This person has been married for many decades, so I don't know if they would have chosen to save up to replace it if it was visible (and would have been considered unattractive to their spouse.)

Now of course, in today's economy, it might be impossible to save up for that kind of work.

But I couldn't help contemplating what I would do if I were in this situation, because, as the title says, I often wonder where the line is between God's command to care for our bodies -- and just being vain.

After all, this body is already dying, and it could be argued that the money used to replace a tooth could be given to the church or a Godly charity instead.

We all know the story of the woman who anointed Jesus with the perfume that cost a year's wages, and how Judas, his betrayer said, "What a waste! This could have been sold and given to the poor!" (John 12:5) But we also know that in this situation, serving Jesus was of utmost priority.

I'm certainly not someone special or important -- just your average everyday sinner -- but for whatever reason, Judas' words have alway stuck with me my entire life -- "Couldn't this money be used to help others, rather than to feed my own vanity?" And it's something I contemplate through many of my own self-care decisions.

Where do YOU feel the line is? Let's say that you lost a tooth and had or could save up the money -- would you choose to replace it?

* Does it matter if it's visible or not visible? What if people would see a big gap when you talk or smile? What if it would be far enough back that it was hidden and couldn't be easily seen?

* Let's say the gap would be visible and very noticeable.
* Would it matter more if you were married and your spouse would be looking at it all the time?
* Would it matter more if you were single and trying to attract a spouse?
* Would it matter any less if you were alone, happy with being alone, and saw yourself as always being alone?

*If the gap would be in the back, where no one could see, and wouldn't cause any problems -- would you leave the gap, or still get a crown? Would any of the above factors (married, single but looking, lifetime single) affect your decision if the gap couldn't be seen?

* If the gap WAS NOT visible, would it be better to give the money to church/charity rather than spending it on a crown?

* If the gap WAS visible, would you still be willing to give the money away instead of getting it filled?

After all, how much do we spend on a body that's steadily dying anyway?

Consuming sufficient nutrition during senior years is a MAJOR factor concerning quality of life.
And a lack of teeth or being uncomfortable because of painful or uncomfortable teeth is a major reason for insufficient nutrition when senior citizens do not feel like eating but need to.
IE the person has only 2 teeth in their mouth which their dentures hook onto but both are hurting and becoming impacted. Exactly what do you do then?
Especially when they are super thin and underweight and have been for some time.

Their health is now on a downhill slide that could have been avoided if they simply had good teeth. But instead they hid themselves away from sharing meals with others so they could hide their issues. This is a MAJOR cause of problems with the geriatric crowd. And completely preventable.

Hey Everyone,

I was debating on whether to post this in Singles or the Family Forum, because I'd really like to hear answers from a variety of people -- married, single and looking, or single and content.

"How Much Time, Effort, and Money Do We Put into a Body That's Dying Anyway?" is a subject that has an inumerable amount of angles, and is something I contemplate more and more as I get older. Where is the line between taking Godly care of our bodies, and just plain vanity?

I think there's an added curve thrown in when you're single and still have a hope of possibly meeting someone. Let's be honest -- if you're single and hoping to attract a spouse, looks do matter -- sometimes ESPECIALLY to Christians, because they are told God only wants THE BEST for them (and for many, they believe that includes looks.) As for myself, I can only work on me to the best of what God enables me, and if it's God's will, maybe meet someone else who is doing the same.

One thing I ponder is if I encounter health problems in the future (though I try to be proactive in staying healthy,) my decisions of which treatments, or whether I have any at all, would all depend on my situation, budget, and how it would affect my family. We could go down the most serious rabbit holes like cancer or chronic illness, but I wanted to present an example of something I recently observed.

I know someone who recently had to have a tooth pulled and decided not to replace it. It was towards the middle of the mouth, didn't show, and wasn't going to cause any problems if left unfilled. This person has been married for many decades, so I don't know if they would have chosen to save up to replace it if it was visible (and would have been considered unattractive to their spouse.)

Now of course, in today's economy, it might be impossible to save up for that kind of work.

But I couldn't help contemplating what I would do if I were in this situation, because, as the title says, I often wonder where the line is between God's command to care for our bodies -- and just being vain.

After all, this body is already dying, and it could be argued that the money used to replace a tooth could be given to the church or a Godly charity instead.

We all know the story of the woman who anointed Jesus with the perfume that cost a year's wages, and how Judas, his betrayer said, "What a waste! This could have been sold and given to the poor!" (John 12:5) But we also know that in this situation, serving Jesus was of utmost priority.

I'm certainly not someone special or important -- just your average everyday sinner -- but for whatever reason, Judas' words have alway stuck with me my entire life -- "Couldn't this money be used to help others, rather than to feed my own vanity?" And it's something I contemplate through many of my own self-care decisions.

Where do YOU feel the line is? Let's say that you lost a tooth and had or could save up the money -- would you choose to replace it?

* Does it matter if it's visible or not visible? What if people would see a big gap when you talk or smile? What if it would be far enough back that it was hidden and couldn't be easily seen?

* Let's say the gap would be visible and very noticeable.
* Would it matter more if you were married and your spouse would be looking at it all the time?
* Would it matter more if you were single and trying to attract a spouse?
* Would it matter any less if you were alone, happy with being alone, and saw yourself as always being alone?

*If the gap would be in the back, where no one could see, and wouldn't cause any problems -- would you leave the gap, or still get a crown? Would any of the above factors (married, single but looking, lifetime single) affect your decision if the gap couldn't be seen?

* If the gap WAS NOT visible, would it be better to give the money to church/charity rather than spending it on a crown?

* If the gap WAS visible, would you still be willing to give the money away instead of getting it filled?

After all, how much do we spend on a body that's steadily dying anyway?

Hey Everyone,

I was debating on whether to post this in Singles or the Family Forum, because I'd really like to hear answers from a variety of people -- married, single and looking, or single and content.

"How Much Time, Effort, and Money Do We Put into a Body That's Dying Anyway?" is a subject that has an inumerable amount of angles, and is something I contemplate more and more as I get older. Where is the line between taking Godly care of our bodies, and just plain vanity?

I think there's an added curve thrown in when you're single and still have a hope of possibly meeting someone. Let's be honest -- if you're single and hoping to attract a spouse, looks do matter -- sometimes ESPECIALLY to Christians, because they are told God only wants THE BEST for them (and for many, they believe that includes looks.) As for myself, I can only work on me to the best of what God enables me, and if it's God's will, maybe meet someone else who is doing the same.

One thing I ponder is if I encounter health problems in the future (though I try to be proactive in staying healthy,) my decisions of which treatments, or whether I have any at all, would all depend on my situation, budget, and how it would affect my family. We could go down the most serious rabbit holes like cancer or chronic illness, but I wanted to present an example of something I recently observed.

I know someone who recently had to have a tooth pulled and decided not to replace it. It was towards the middle of the mouth, didn't show, and wasn't going to cause any problems if left unfilled. This person has been married for many decades, so I don't know if they would have chosen to save up to replace it if it was visible (and would have been considered unattractive to their spouse.)

Now of course, in today's economy, it might be impossible to save up for that kind of work.

But I couldn't help contemplating what I would do if I were in this situation, because, as the title says, I often wonder where the line is between God's command to care for our bodies -- and just being vain.

After all, this body is already dying, and it could be argued that the money used to replace a tooth could be given to the church or a Godly charity instead.

We all know the story of the woman who anointed Jesus with the perfume that cost a year's wages, and how Judas, his betrayer said, "What a waste! This could have been sold and given to the poor!" (John 12:5) But we also know that in this situation, serving Jesus was of utmost priority.

I'm certainly not someone special or important -- just your average everyday sinner -- but for whatever reason, Judas' words have alway stuck with me my entire life -- "Couldn't this money be used to help others, rather than to feed my own vanity?" And it's something I contemplate through many of my own self-care decisions.

Where do YOU feel the line is? Let's say that you lost a tooth and had or could save up the money -- would you choose to replace it?

* Does it matter if it's visible or not visible? What if people would see a big gap when you talk or smile? What if it would be far enough back that it was hidden and couldn't be easily seen?

* Let's say the gap would be visible and very noticeable.
* Would it matter more if you were married and your spouse would be looking at it all the time?
* Would it matter more if you were single and trying to attract a spouse?
* Would it matter any less if you were alone, happy with being alone, and saw yourself as always being alone?

*If the gap would be in the back, where no one could see, and wouldn't cause any problems -- would you leave the gap, or still get a crown? Would any of the above factors (married, single but looking, lifetime single) affect your decision if the gap couldn't be seen?

* If the gap WAS NOT visible, would it be better to give the money to church/charity rather than spending it on a crown?

* If the gap WAS visible, would you still be willing to give the money away instead of getting it filled?

After all, how much do we spend on a body that's steadily dying anyway?