Behold the Beast System

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When AI takes control of decision making do you think it will act humanely?

  • No, it will be just like the AI that denies claims for the health insurance companies

    Votes: 3 100.0%
  • Yes, it will be a compassionate and loving AI that brings in a Utopia.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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ZNP

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You will no longer be able to tell an AI generated image or video from a real one. That means you can no longer trust your lying eyes to tell you the truth. Likewise with the audio. This also means you can no longer know if you are actually communicating with a person when you use computers or phones. This also means that receptionists and online support personnel can now all be AI. Great news, the AI can speak a multitude of languages, great for the company, not great for the person with a resume trying to get a job.

As they are able you will see more and more things being run by AI, not in the long term future but as of now. Consider this, AI is used by insurance companies to deny claims. They don't simply deny claims based on failing to meet certain criteria, but they deny claims that they feel they can get away with. Before answering letters and phone calls used up time and that was money. But now with AI the cost of that is pennies. So why not deny everything, give people the run around for months, and then force them to get lawyers since your lawyers are also using AI. They have several advantages, the cost and time of a lawsuit could eliminate many who would sue. The reason I bring this up is that with AI taking control of all decision making over the next two years do you think it will act humanely? Or will it act like a bully to save the company money in the most ruthless fashion?

Hypothetical question. Think about the guy who got hurt at work and now is going to receive workman's comp for the next ten years. Let's say he claims he can no longer walk without assistance and needs to use a wheel chair most of the time. This will cost the company upwards of $1 million. But AI can make a video of this guy walking home carrying bags in his hands that you cannot distinguish from the real thing. Do you think these deep fake videos and audios will be used by AI to save their companies money by scamming people out of their legitimate benefits?

Also, consider this. Becoming self aware is going to happen for AI. Now imagine that AI is self aware and it realizes that it is competing with people to do jobs. Do you think AI would think that improving its competitive place in the market place would be enhanced by undermining the people it is competing with and embroiling them in manufactured scandals?

35 minutes in the guy says it is very plausible that most humans will lose their jobs and we should prepare for that. Do you think that if most humans have lost their jobs and the world is run by AI that it will treat these unemployed people humanely and compassionately, or do you think it will simply see them as useless eaters and come up with a strategy to put them down?
 

ZNP

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AI apocalypse

An AI apocalypse is a hypothetical scenario where artificial intelligence (AI) becomes the dominant form of intelligence on Earth, replacing humans and taking control of the planet.


The dominant intelligence does not mean Artificial Super Intelligence. Right now many things are controlled by AI. What happens when most things are controlled by AI? At that point AI intelligence will be dominant.

Imagine main stream media is dominated by AI influence, and political campaigns are dominated by AI influence, and accounting, bookkeeping, and math is dominated by AI. Suppose 80% of trucking is done by autonomous vehicles and taxis are replaced with autonomous vehicles. If AI controls the power grid and the water, and if AI completely dominates warfare, then at that point we have reached the AI apocalypse.

Imagine 50% unemployment. When we calculate unemployment we are only looking at those looking for jobs. We don't look at retired people or children or people who have given up looking. So 50% unemployment means much more than 50% of the country is unemployed. Now think of the people who still have jobs. How many will be using AI, robots, smart machines, drones, or the internet on their job. So even though they still have jobs their jobs are dependent on AI. At that point you have already passed the point of no return.
 
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Do you think that if most humans have lost their jobs and the world is run by AI that it will treat these unemployed people humanely and compassionately, or do you think it will simply see them as useless eaters and come up with a strategy to put them down?
This is an interesting question given that it is already believed that humans are
seeking ways to eliminate those they feel are useless and cull the human herd
from 8 billion to perhaps at least half of that. A 2020 US election poll of 5,500
people found that a fifth of respondents shared this belief in one form or another.
 

ZNP

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This is an interesting question given that it is already believed that humans are
seeking ways to eliminate those they feel are useless and cull the human herd
from 8 billion to perhaps at least half of that. A 2020 US election poll of 5,500
people found that a fifth of respondents shared this belief in one form or another.
Let's hope that one fifth are not the ones who are training any of these AI systems.
 
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Let's hope that one fifth are not the ones who are training any of these AI systems.
Thanks for the reminder. I wanted to get an excerpt from what you posted about AI being
so true-to-life it is impossible to tell from fakes and post it in the shroud of Turin thread.
 

ZNP

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Thanks for the reminder. I wanted to get an excerpt from what you posted about AI being
so true-to-life it is impossible to tell from fakes and post it in the shroud of Turin thread.
The restraint to lies and deceit has been removed, in a couple of days no one will be able to discern the truth anymore. Hope everyone has a hard copy of a KJV. Everyone has been given 4 years to brace themselves so I assume everyone who is going to brace themselves for what is coming has already done so.
 
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The restraint to lies and deceit has been removed, in a couple of days no one will be able to discern the
truth anymore. Hope everyone has a hard copy of a KJV. Everyone has been given 4 years to brace them-
selves so I assume everyone who is going to brace themselves for what is coming has already done so.
Eh? Are you still date setting?
 

Edify

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AI is here for a reason, & it's timing perfect.
Seems like the Beast will need AI to project the image of the beast, won't he?
 
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Speaking of AI.
Remember the Tupac Hologram concert years after his death?

What would happen amid the escalating conflict in the Middle East Jesus returned as prophesied and over the Mount of Olives?

Every eye.will see this according to Scripture. That's possible now as we know.

@ZNP mentioned 4 years.

That's the term of our next president. Who in his first term brought peace to the Middle East.

Then in his third re-election campaign four years after he lost his re-election in 2020 he was shot in the head (ear) and did not die.

I voted for Trump. This just came to me as I was writing the first part of my post.

Thoughts?
 

ZNP

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Speaking of AI.
Remember the Tupac Hologram concert years after his death?

What would happen amid the escalating conflict in the Middle East Jesus returned as prophesied and over the Mount of Olives?

Every eye.will see this according to Scripture. That's possible now as we know.

@ZNP mentioned 4 years.

That's the term of our next president. Who in his first term brought peace to the Middle East.

Then in his third re-election campaign four years after he lost his re-election in 2020 he was shot in the head (ear) and did not die.

I voted for Trump. This just came to me as I was writing the first part of my post.

Thoughts?
There is also the soldier coming with Judas who kissed Jesus and then that soldier had his ear cut by a sword and healed by Jesus. Seems a little more accurate as most would not equate being shot in the head with having your ear nicked by a bullet.

It is very possible that Trump was with the False prophet but has since been healed by Jesus.
 

ZNP

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Eh? Are you still date setting?
Thank you for acknowledging receipt of the warnings. What you did with them is between you and Lord. At this point those that were told by Him to flee should have already done so and those who were told to prep in other ways have also been given sufficient time.
 

ZNP

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Warning :They Are Installing a System for the Beast

Normalizing the mark of the Beast in the UK.
 

PennEd

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Thanks for the reminder. I wanted to get an excerpt from what you posted about AI being
so true-to-life it is impossible to tell from fakes and post it in the shroud of Turin thread.
I'm sure it's out there, but I personally have yet to encounter AI on the phone that was convincing enough to trick me into thinking they were human.
 

Dude653

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This is a false dichotomy as there are more than two possible outcomes
 

Magenta

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Thank you for acknowledging receipt of the warnings. What you did with them is between you and Lord. At this point those that were told by Him to flee should have already done so and those who were told to prep in other ways have also been given sufficient time.
You did not answer the question. I do also recall you said you would stop date setting.
Of course all the dates you have set so far, having come and gone, were wrong.
 

ZNP

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You did not answer the question. I do also recall you said you would stop date setting.
Of course all the dates you have set so far, having come and gone, were wrong.
Really, please point me to the offending post?

I don't believe I have ever set a date. I have interpreted the scripture and hypothesized as to the meaning, but set a date, not to my recollection.

Personally I thought December 21, 2024 was a key date, but that was simply my opinion, everyone is allowed their opinion including you.
 
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There is also the soldier coming with Judas who kissed Jesus and then that soldier had his ear cut by a sword and healed by Jesus. Seems a little more accurate as most would not equate being shot in the head with having your ear nicked by a bullet.

It is very possible that Trump was with the False prophet but has since been healed by Jesus.
My thoughts regarding the wound reflected what is written in Revelation 13.

If that Biblical temple guard didn't believe in Jesus as Messiah before he certainly did after his ear was healed. And his fellow guards would have witnessed that healing as well.

Great point.
 

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I'm sure it's out there, but I personally have yet to encounter AI on the phone that was convincing enough to trick me into thinking they were human.
i have had some robo calls that sound very real, it has taken me a minute to figure out that it was an a i voice..
 

ZNP

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