What do these words mean in 1 Corinthians 15:3?

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1 Corinthians 15:1-4
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15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

I can read these words in two different ways at least which is causing me to not be able to trust that I know what Paul meant. Would anyone be able to help me out by explaining the meaning of these words? Is Paul speaking in jargon or is it the plain meaning so to say (these can be tricky words to read, for me at least)?
 
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1 Corinthians 15:1-4
King James Version

15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

I can read these words in two different ways at least which is causing me to not be able to trust that I know what Paul meant. Would anyone be able to help me out by explaining the meaning of these words? Is Paul speaking in jargon or is it the plain meaning so to say (these can be tricky words to read, for me at least)?
First of all can you tell us the two ways on how you understand the words? Secondly, what do you mean by "jargon?" Thirdly, the verses in question is what is known as a "creed." A set of beliefs or aims which guide someone's actions. It's a "capsulation of beliefs like for example the Apostles Creed or the Nicene Creed summarizing core beliefs.

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 
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1 Corinthians 15:1-4
King James Version

15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

I can read these words in two different ways at least which is causing me to not be able to trust that I know what Paul meant. Would anyone be able to help me out by explaining the meaning of these words? Is Paul speaking in jargon or is it the plain meaning so to say (these can be tricky words to read, for me at least)?
They mean what they plainly say.
 
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1 Corinthians 15:1-4
King James Version

15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

I can read these words in two different ways at least which is causing me to not be able to trust that I know what Paul meant. Would anyone be able to help me out by explaining the meaning of these words? Is Paul speaking in jargon or is it the plain meaning so to say (these can be tricky words to read, for me at least)?
The context of Chapter 15 is
there were those that did not believe inn the resurrection of Jesus

read the rest in context to hear Paul say it clear
If Christ is not risen, then we are still in our sins, they are not taken away, if not risen
I know I have sinned and sinned again, some may have left and some still do their best to get me in strife and say things Like see, you just sinned again you are not forgiven! or you would never sin again and you just did it again, Talk about getting stressed out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I fell into that once and oh boy, I wanted to never sin again and still do not want to sin ever again
I suspect this is you too right now.

If so, see in thanksgiving and praise what God has done by Son for you, what God predicted would get done once for everyone stated in Hebrews 10, especially verse 10 forward, best to read the entire epistle for me at least to keep in stride of what is written trusting Daddy to reveal what is needed for me to rest in his Love and mercy of Son given everyone to stand in therefore we have from God in 2 Cor 12:7-10 God's Grace is sufficient
New life is not installed in the death, the death was for reconciliation first, then new life is norw offered in the risen Son for us all to be gotten given to us from Daddy, PaPA, Father, to me at least and many others that already see it are at rest in it thankfully. Does it mean, you will never ever sin again?

So, what to do with that, God's grace is sufficient. Do I respond with, I can do whatever I want and take whatever I want, having no consequences over it, since God has forgiven me?
That, is what the Corinthians did and Paul is addressing here in Chapter 15 it is Jesus is risen, you are forgiven, even if you sin again as they did, harming others in the process, just grabbing whatever they wanted in their first born flesh nature, not born new as were seen from God's view to become new, that God will install once anyone e gets this truth, and sees to not take it for granted or do it by their own works.
They repented 2 Corinthians 7
Paul, throughout all his epistles sought to correct all the mistakes flesh nature (First birth) makes to be made new by God for each person that chooses God to lead them will get led once willing, not before that ever at least in my walk here on earth I see that now after being religious, trying to get God to respond to me by what I did do or not do, as if I am a better than others person (Luke 18:9-14) Thank you Father for the forgiveness in Son for us all
Matthew 18:24-35 is now my response, Thankful and merciful to all since God is merciful to me first, even though I have adversities too
 
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For all have sinned (missed the mark of perfection) and come short of the glory of God.

People can't then come to God because of this, so Jesus Christ then died on the cross to pay the sin debt owed to us.

His payment for our sin has given everyone a way to receive salvation from Him.

Like if you couldn't pay a friend back to restore friendship and they unconditionally paid it for you so you could be friends again.
 
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1 Peter 2 verse 24 (Isaiah 53 verse 5, Matthew 8 verse 17) Romans 6 verse 6 plus from 1 John 3 verse 5 ~ He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. “By His stripes you are healed.” Our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin. Jesus came to take away our sins, and there is no sin in Him.
 
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Isaiah 53 verse 5 ~ He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed.
 
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John 3 verse 16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
 
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Romans 5 verse 8 God demonstrates His love for us in this: while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
:)
 

lrs68

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I guess I am not seeing the possibility of two meanings because as I read that it plainly is paraphrasing the words of Jesus when He presented the same Gospel and then lived it, died, resurrected.

But I am intrigued by those claiming to see a different meaning.
Interesting.
 
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1 Corinthians 15:1-4
King James Version

15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

I can read these words in two different ways at least which is causing me to not be able to trust that I know what Paul meant. Would anyone be able to help me out by explaining the meaning of these words? Is Paul speaking in jargon or is it the plain meaning so to say (these can be tricky words to read, for me at least)?
Thanks LeeLoving for your question.

Paul was saying that he received the gospel, meaning he believed the good news and was saved. The good news is that Jesus defeated death. He defeated death for our sakes, so that death will not be our final sentence, but instead we will live (in Christ, and thanks to God).

Paul lays out this good news (gospel) in three parts. He says that the parts are according to scripture (scripture mentioned them prior to their actually happening).

1. Christ died for our sins.
"He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. "

2. He was buried.
"And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. "
"For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. "

3. He rose again the third day.
"And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights...Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple...I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God. ."
 
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Isaiah 53 verse 2b-3 He had no stately form or majesty to attract us, no beauty that we should desire Him. 3He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, acquainted with grief. Like one from whom men hide their faces, He was despised, and we esteemed Him not.
 
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1 Peter 2 verse 24 (Isaiah 53 verse 5, Matthew 8 verse 17) Romans 6 verse 6 plus from 1 John 3 verse 5 ~ He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. “By His stripes you are healed.” Our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin. Jesus came to take away our sins, and there is no sin in Him.
God for us all, got that correct to give new life that abides by Faith given us to abide in, after a long ride here on earth trying, trying and trying again, then seeing to let go and trust God to teach us new. And then do without any credit to self. Me learning g this and have learned it, remembering not to think I know when only Daddy, PaPa, Father knows best
Thanks you Father Psalm 100:4, for the done work of Son for us all to turn to you and stand in belief to it, no matter what troubles happen to us or anyone else, at least me
Psalm 103:12
As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

the willing death of Son was for us all to be reconciled 2 Cor 5:17-20
Amazing, this done work, ready to give each person that decides to believe God, new life in Son's risen Life for them to love all, over the few that only the first birth, flesh can do, not all
To me seeing deeper and deeper daily thanks to God, and others in belief as well, helps
 
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For all have sinned (missed the mark of perfection) and come short of the glory of God.

People can't then come to God because of this, so Jesus Christ then died on the cross to pay the sin debt owed to us.

His payment for our sin has given everyone a way to receive salvation from Him.

Like if you couldn't pay a friend back to restore friendship and they unconditionally paid it for you so you could be friends again.
freed to Father and Son as Won for us to be new in his risen life forms to love all,l not a few anymore, thank you
 

PaulThomson

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First of all can you tell us the two ways on how you understand the words? Secondly, what do you mean by "jargon?" Thirdly, the verses in question is what is known as a "creed." A set of beliefs or aims which guide someone's actions. It's a "capsulation of beliefs like for example the Apostles Creed or the Nicene Creed summarizing core beliefs.

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
King James Version

15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

I can read these words in two different ways at least which is causing me to not be able to trust that I know what Paul meant. Would anyone be able to help me out by explaining the meaning of these words? Is Paul speaking in jargon or is it the plain meaning so to say (these can be tricky words to read, for me at least)?

Plain/Jargon meaning? -
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if you are keeping in memory what I preached unto you. If you have stopped keeping it in memory, your earlier belief is no longer effective to save you.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures (so we should stop doing evil works);
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Plain/jargon meaning? -
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye are keeping in memory what I actually preached unto you, otherwise you seem to have misunderstood me and you believed something I did not teach and which is not saving you..
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures (so our works are now irrelevant to our salvation) ;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
 

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1 Corinthians 15:1-4
King James Version

15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

I can read these words in two different ways at least which is causing me to not be able to trust that I know what Paul meant. Would anyone be able to help me out by explaining the meaning of these words? Is Paul speaking in jargon or is it the plain meaning so to say (these can be tricky words to read, for me at least)?
it means what it says

“But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the reason is

Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭18:4‬ ‭KJV‬

and

“for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:23‬ ‭

rather than all of gods creation dying because of sin Gods Will is this …..

“But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

See every sinner who’s ever sinned even one time , is condemned to death by Gods word of death against sin “if you sin you will surely die “ is what man’s told in the ot .

God provided a propitiation placing the price of death for all our sins upon the sinless messiah . The atonement sacrifice.

In the ot when someone sinned the sin wouod be transferred onto an animal and then the animal wouod be killed to fulfill the word of death fornthe sin . The nt God places all sin upon Jesus upon his body and he takes the punishment of death for sin on our behalf

Jesus bore our sins upon the cross as he died

“who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭2:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a and when we believe he died for our sins we respond

“God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:2-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

our death for sin is fulfilled in Christ
in order that the punishment is fulfilled and our sins can be remitted in him this way Gods word of death for sin is fulfilled and also mankind has hope of life in Christ who lives now and always