Who Was Hitler? AND...

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Gideon300

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One small point: Fascism is not Nazism. Fascism is nation based, Nazism is race based. Fascism was the creation of Mussolini, who dreamed of restoring Italy to the glory days of Rome. Hitler sought racial purity, based on evolutionary theory. This gave rise to the idea of the Aryan "master race".

It may escape some people, but Nazi Germany was socialist. The point that the video makes about modern socialism in the West is well made.
 
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One small point: Fascism is not Nazism. Fascism is nation based, Nazism is race based. Fascism was the creation of Mussolini, who dreamed of restoring Italy to the glory days of Rome. Hitler sought racial purity, based on evolutionary theory. This gave rise to the idea of the Aryan "master race".

It may escape some people, but Nazi Germany was socialist. The point that the video makes about modern socialism in the West is well made.
Those are important distinctions to make.

Socialism (many kinds) are characterized by collectivist systems.
Fascism is more of a big centralized government with a dictator.

The two in practice did overlap in that one point it seems. But then there are few true socialist systems in practice except for the small ones like Pennsylvania Dutch Mennonite communities and Bruderhoffs. Israel had their own communal system for a few decades too.

I think the governmental socialists are really oligarchies controlled by wealthy families who keep the peasants poor. The exception might be Russia at this time. I heard that they have a large middle class now.

The way any of these terms are used today is more like an overused cuss word by the libs.
 

Gideon300

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Those are important distinctions to make.

Socialism (many kinds) are characterized by collectivist systems.
Fascism is more of a big centralized government with a dictator.

The two in practice did overlap in that one point it seems. But then there are few true socialist systems in practice except for the small ones like Pennsylvania Dutch Mennonite communities and Bruderhoffs. Israel had their own communal system for a few decades too.

I think the governmental socialists are really oligarchies controlled by wealthy families who keep the peasants poor. The exception might be Russia at this time. I heard that they have a large middle class now.

The way any of these terms are used today is more like an overused cuss word by the libs.
Nazi and Fascist are used interchangeably these days. And yes, it is usually an insult. The modern definition is "Nazi" - anyone with conservative views. Fascist - anyone with conservative views. Strictly speaking, anyone who is patriotic could be called a fascist. The real irony is that Nazism was in reality socialist, as the "Bee" points out. Try telling that to leftists. Watch them explode.
 

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Basic elements of the capitalist system remained in place, the government intervened in the economy to prepare for war, not due to ideology.
So the rounding up Jews and putting them into the Ghetto was not due to ideology?
 

ZNP

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You can have it mean whatever you prefer. :)
It depends on how you interpret Prepare for war as to whether or not gathering Jews into the Ghettos was part of the economy or simply part of the plan for the economy.
 

ZNP

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Hitler's economic views in "Mein Kampf"
  • Anti-Capitalism and Anti-Marxism: Hitler expressed anti-capitalist sentiments while simultaneously opposing Marxism, viewing both as detrimental to the German nation. He associated Jews with both international high finance and Bolshevism, according to Taylor & Francis Online: Peer-reviewed Journals.
Clearly Hitlers views on the German economy were intertwined with his ideology.
  • Rejection of Free Market Principles: He believed a state-controlled, planned economy was superior to a market economy.
  • Emphasis on Racial Purity: Hitler believed that racial purity was crucial for Germany's economic strength and overall well-being. He saw Jews as a threat to this vision.
Again, you cannot separate Hitler's ideology from his economic policy.

In essence, Hitler's economic views in "Mein Kampf" were focused on creating a self-sufficient, racially "pure" Germany, capable of achieving global dominance through territorial expansion and military strength

Mein Kampf was published in 1925, long before the Nazi's began preparing for war.