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Oh so, now with a bit of research one can see it is not bull.:rolleyes:

Tragic how you view things.
No, it is bull. 9 people, not the IDF, the same as when American soldiers were accused. You're saying everyone in the IDF are corrupt murders and rapists that is BULL!
 

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No, it is bull. 9 people, not the IDF, the same as when American soldiers were accused. You're saying everyone in the IDF are corrupt murders and rapists that is BULL!
Okay next time I will say some in the IDF, although I am pretty sure that that is implied, unlike denying a genocide.
 
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Hey, Rose, I hope you are feeling better today! Well, the hero of Islam and Islam itself was set up as an anti-Christ religion.
I do not get how people who claim to be Christians can defend it it any way. It exists to subjugate all to its demands.
It was spread by the sword from its inception, also, but people are still deceived and call it a religion of peace. There
is nothing peaceful about it. There are over 100 verses in the Koran commanding them to kill people of the Book, and
unbelievers, and infidels (those who depart the faith). In other words, anyone who refuses to submit.

I am feeling better, thank you! I tagged you because I know you are well versed in Islam. I agree, I don't know how Christians defend it either. Those that do should have to go live in a Muslim majority country for a year so they can understand what Islam is all about.
 
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You are in a very, very sad place, but it is by your choice.
War is a very tragic thing to happen, lives will be lost, devastation will come about.
For years Israel has been the target of bombings every day. How would you like to live like that?
Oct 7th was well planned by hamas if you can justify this as a retaliation for cruel punishment of Israel your in a very sad place.
Un like the other wars that deal with politics and vested interest Israel is going for the head of the snake.
While your sympathy goes toward the enemy Europe is being over run by the same type of people. Africa as well.
Guess what there coming for you too. Unless you want to deny Christ AND SWARE ALLAH IS LORD.
This is not a war over who's land it is it's about survival of the Jewish peoples and state.
 
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Let's get serious here. They didn't pull that number out of a rabbit's hat. There are researchers, there is first hand testimony, and written records by the Nazi's themselves. So this number didn't just come from nowhere. It is well attested to with a literal ton of facts. I did not say the number doesn't matter!! I said if the number were less does that change how horrific the Holocaust was?
......did you actually read this "fact check" before posting it? It doesn't address any of the newpapers shown but references how they performed a search for the phrase in search engines to generate different results, only to conclude that the 6 million figure is "just one of many references in the U.S. press to the size of Jewish populations before World War II", and then proceeds to referece a 2022 report from a Israeli newspaper claiming there were 6 million deaths.

So since neither you nor they will directly address the content of the newspapers I will take the time and post key portions of each news paper's content for the record just give me some time.

No one said there isn't a place called Palestine. But it was not a country or a state. There were no distinct Palestinian people, no ruler, no money. "Palestinians are Arabs.

"Upon crushing the Jewish Revolt of 132 CE the Romans exiled the majority of the Jews and renamed Israel “Syria-Palestina”. The idea was to erase the Jewish presence from Israel by exiling and renaming their homeland after their Biblical enemies."
Geographically Syria-Palestina stretched from Egypt to Turkey and from Israel to Jordan, it had a diverse demography but with the Jews exiled the majority population was Phoenician, Greek and Roman… not Arab.


1937 a Nablus born proto-Palestinian leader declared:

There is no such country as Palestine! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria.
– Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi
If you're asking me to be serious, I'm asking you to be accurate.

Rome exiled jews from JERUSALEM. not ISRAEL/JUDEA.

Again....

Rome exiled jews from THE CITY OF JERUSALEM. not from THE LAND OF ISRAEL/JUDEA.

People who lived there were called JUDEANS because the land was named JUDEA.

Jews who lived in Judea were called JUDEANS. Samaritans who lived in Judea were called JUDEANS. Romans who lived in Judea were called JUDEANS. WHY? Because that was the name of the land they lived in.

Judea was a PROVINCE of Rome.

Province - 1. a principal administrative division of certain countries or empires; 2. the whole of a country outside the capital, especially when regarded as lacking in sophistication or culture.

The word "province" and a "state" are interchangeable with only slight diffrences if you're dealing with a country or empire. The PROVINCE of Judea had a semi-independent government under Rome.

Rome RENAMED the PROVINCE after the revolt. They didn't dissolve the PROVINCE. They renamed it.

The PROVINCE was renamed Syria-Palestine. The same governmental structure existed after the renaming as before the renaming.

Syria-Palestine was a PROVINCE of Rome

Jews who lived in Palestine were called PALESTINIANS. Samaritans who lived in Palestine were called PALESTINIANS. Romans who lived in Palestine were called PALESTINIANS. WHY? Because that was the new name of the land they lived in.

...Are you starting to understand yet?

Fast-forward to Arabs conquering the land. They made to official religion islam and encouraged all inhabitants to convert (no differnce than when John Hyrcanus conquered Judea and forced all the inhabitants to convert to Judaism). But with the Muslims, those who didn't convert were required to pay a tax. Many converted, some did not. Eventually Jews were allowed back into THE CITY OF JERUSALEM though they were never exiled from the LAND and PROVINCE of PALESTINE.

Well I'll let @Magenta fill you in on the Muslims. Look at Muslim majority countries and see how many Jews live there currently. I believe it was from Magenta that I found out about Dr. Warner. Maybe she can recall. He pointed to research that the Muslims were involved in the Atlantic slave trade. I will try to find that information again. But that aside there was the Arab/Muslim or Trans- Saharan slave trade.
Matthew 15:14
...if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

What specifically do you mean?
I'm following your logic. You said no one who commits a genocide gives people time to leave. So then by your logic, Nazi Germany didn't commit a genocide since they gave 8 years for Jewish people to go? I'm trying to follow your trail.

Looks like that was under Biden. It's a little more complicated than that though. And I would consider this site far from conservative.

https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...controversy-surrounding-the-antisemitism-bill
I'm going to assume you know there are three branches of the US government and that the legislative branch introduces bills, too. Hence, the attempt to redefine the term antisemitism.

What are you saying, Gods Word is wrong? Why are you mocking and asking me? It's not my words, I didn't write these things.
You seem intimidated by your favorite passage. I'm asking you to do what we're commanded to do.

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Again...

The way prophecies work is that people have to experience what was prophesied to happen to them; otherwise, the prophecies are wrong or the people are wrong. We don't conform scripture to fit what we see happening. We measure/weigh what is happening against the words of scripture because the Word is the immutable truth. Come, let's reason together using your favorite passage on this topic, Romans 11:


1. During their blindness/hardening, they're also supposed to be "diminished" WHILE the Gentiles are elevated and gain riches UNTIL the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled, correct? Are we still in the time of the Gentiles per your eschatological reckoning?


2. They're also supposed to be spurred by jealousy or envy because of the Gentiles receiving salvation, correct? Have you heard of any sentiments where these modern folks are jealous of Christian Goyim for any reason?


3. Their backs are supposed to be bent always (suggesting servitude or subservience) during the time of the Gentiles. Are these modern folks bent over in subservience to any nations, or are nations subservient to them?


You've commented on everything else I've replied to you, let's dive into the actual bible.
 
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Hey, Rose, I hope you are feeling better today! Well, the hero of Islam and Islam itself was set up as an anti-Christ religion.
I do not get how people who claim to be Christians can defend it it any way. It exists to subjugate all to its demands.
It was spread by the sword from its inception, also, but people are still deceived and call it a religion of peace. There
is nothing peaceful about it. There are over 100 verses in the Koran commanding them to kill people of the Book, and
unbelievers, and infidels (those who depart the faith). In other words, anyone who refuses to submit.
I am feeling better, thank you! I tagged you because I know you are well versed in Islam. I agree, I don't know how Christians defend it either. Those that do should have to go live in a Muslim majority country for a year so they can understand what Islam is all about.
Guilt by association, Ad hominem. Petty barbs.

Better to be accused of defending a false religion than to be accused of defending baby killers because they were born into the wrong religion.

Since this is the bible study room, could either of you tell me where Islam is prophesied in the Book of Revelation? It's in there, I assure you, but I'd be interested in your takes on it.
 
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Islam is antichrist, pure and simple.
There is a leaked video of IDF soldiers anally raping a Palestinian prisoner with a stick. It became a scandal and the soldiers were tossed in prison while an investigation proceeded. Locals stormed the prison in protest and the men were released. One of them did a TV interview and was proclaimed a hero. Some legal authority said what they did was legal.
He said, against Hamas everything is legitimate.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel...soner-alleged-rape-sde-teinman-abuse-protest/
 
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Okay next time I will say some in the IDF, although I am pretty sure that that is implied, unlike denying a genocide.
All pretense is falling away. And the state is being seen for what it has always been: A godless terrorist state. When their army was founded by established terrorist groups, how else do we expect them to act?

Haganah
Irgun
Lehi

 

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War is a very tragic thing to happen, lives will be lost, devastation will come about.
For years Israel has been the target of bombings every day. How would you like to live like that?
Oct 7th was well planned by hamas if you can justify this as a retaliation for cruel punishment of Israel your in a very sad place.
Un like the other wars that deal with politics and vested interest Israel is going for the head of the snake.
While your sympathy goes toward the enemy Europe is being over run by the same type of people. Africa as well.
Guess what there coming for you too. Unless you want to deny Christ AND SWARE ALLAH IS LORD.
This is not a war over who's land it is it's about survival of the Jewish peoples and state.
It is a Genocide/Mass Starvation/Ethnic Cleansing/Mowing the Lawn/Open Air Prison/Occupation start there and maybe I might pay attention to the rest.

Maybe find out who supported and propped up Hamas?
Do you really want to go back to the start of all this?
 
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All pretense is falling away. And the state is being seen for what it has always been: A godless terrorist state. When their army was founded by established terrorist groups, how else do we expect them to act?

Haganah
Irgun
Lehi


Utter lie!! 100% fabricated lie!
 
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It is a Genocide/Mass Starvation/Ethnic Cleansing/Mowing the Lawn/Open Air Prison/Occupation start there and maybe I might pay attention to the rest.

Maybe find out who supported and propped up Hamas?
Do you really want to go back to the start of all this?
Lies, all of it are lies. All one has to do is look up the history and they'll know you are spreading propaganda and lies.
 
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