Im losing my mind. Ive been losing faith and hope, things keep getting worse. Please dont bash me and please dont send me quotes.

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I always felt that I should do things on my own, and hopefully they were God inspired, with this everything Im attempting is backfiring. The narcissist is influencing my child, Im inadvertantly a victim in this. THe mother uses my child as a weapon, and hopefully she will turn on her mother soon.

Tell me how to release that anger, she is hurting my baby. but I get the millstone on my neck. Make sense to you?
I can’t really tell you how to release that anger. I don’t know your faith, I don’t know your knowledge of psychology, and I don’t know you personally. Just because we know things doesn’t mean we can successfully put them all together to achieve a purpose. You do not have to unfeel anger... but it should definitely not be controlling your life so that you can focus better on that wonderful daughter of yours’ needs. Biterness can nest in you, and make you ill. We think about how hurt our child is, their suffering... we think about the sadness they have to feel and go through... and it’s enough bury us. It’s enough to eat at our insides until there is nothing left of us but hollow shells. I pray for your faith, your strength, your daughter.

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Soc1

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I can’t really tell you how to release that anger. I don’t know your faith, I don’t know your knowledge of psychology, and I don’t know you personally. Just because we know things doesn’t mean we can successfully put them all together to achieve a purpose. You do not have to unfeel anger... but it should definitely not be controlling your life so that you can focus better on that wonderful daughter of yours’ needs. Biterness can nest in you, and make you ill. We think about how hurt our child is, their suffering... we think about the sadness they have to feel and go through... and it’s enough bury us. It’s enough to eat at our insides until there is nothing left of us but hollow shells. I pray for your faith, your strength, your daughter.

❤️
I am a hollow shell, saving my daughter is the most important thing I can do for her, but I need some help from God, and that is the problem lately
 
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Ive always had a problem with the praise thing, God doesnt need a pat on the back, an atta boy, a way to go God, some of the things God does are good, some are bad, God doesnt need praise,giving him thanks is fine and I do do that.
Praise isnt an expression of faith in the least, it is just thinking God is shallow and will buy these things. Its patronizing,I would think God doesnt like that at all. I would hope he appreciates honesty.
I now understand why you are so tormented.


May God bless you and keep you.



JPT
 

mitzpin

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I can’t really tell you how to release that anger. I don’t know your faith, I don’t know your knowledge of psychology, and I don’t know you personally. Just because we know things doesn’t mean we can successfully put them all together to achieve a purpose. You do not have to unfeel anger... but it should definitely not be controlling your life so that you can focus better on that wonderful daughter of yours’ needs. Biterness can nest in you, and make you ill. We think about how hurt our child is, their suffering... we think about the sadness they have to feel and go through... and it’s enough bury us. It’s enough to eat at our insides until there is nothing left of us but hollow shells. I pray for your faith, your strength, your daughter.

❤️
Sorry for your suffering and sorry that you’re being tormented by anger. Life is tough and life as a Christian can be very tough. Not trying to give you an easy answer but something that helps & that I have experienced. The enemy wants us to hold unforgiveness and bitterness to keep us trapped. Our only way to freedom is to turn from unforgiveness and forgive the specific person for the specific hurts and ask God to fill your heart with his forgiveness and compassion for that person. Everyone needs God‘s grace just as much as we do. Most people are caught up in their own suffering when they take it out on someone else even a child. Praying for you to receive the healing in your heart that God wants you to have. Torment never comes from God.
 

Silverwings

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Ya know why would God need glory?
He is at the very top of all food chains, everywhere in the universe. Qouting me vers allegedly written 2,000 yrs ago and translated so many different times is silly. Mankind has progressed in that time, Id like to think God has as well.
Hebrews 13:8 8Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

The Dead Sea Scrolls found in a cave, in 1947 match precisely, the original COPIES to a "tee". Scholars, Historians, and Archaeology have well over 24,000 documents of antiquity, which support the Bible as being a very precise Book.
 

AlisaS

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Im sorry to hear of your problems,but they are pale compared to my daughter's. Hard to believe that someone loves me when it isnt shown. Im broken hearted yes, but Im old and my time is short. I pray for her future and fo her to be helped. That isnt much to ask at all is it?
Hello again -
I didn’t actually give you my testimony so you could be sorry for my problems (but thank you for saying so anyways ❤️). I gave it to you to show how much we’re loved by God! If he reached out - multiple times - to a unbelieving, mocking sinner like me - imagine how much he loves us! He sent his Son to die a miserable, gruesome death for us! He loves every bit of you ❤️❤️

However, perhaps your faith is failing because it is misplaced and misguided? We can’t put God in a box and have our own ideas of how he should be - we can’t make him into what we want him to be. A loving Father we have - but one who looks out for our *spiritual health* rather than providing constant agreeable circumstances in our lives. Having a comfortable life where we always have things the way we want them does nothing for our spiritual health. For example, if there are things in this world that take first place in our hearts before God (money, entertainment, family, clothing, etc), then that is not being spirtually healthy - that is idolatry.
God wants us to be happy - but not with things that we place in our hearts before him! *We can’t see* how we’re tied down to the things of this world that we [unknowingly] place before God in our hearts. We need to *lose our life* to find it - just like Jesus did. We need to deny ourselves - deny our own wills, stop wanting *our own* will to be done and trust in God’s will! We can’t use human reasoning to build our own lives apart from God’s will. THIS IS HARD - to deny ourselves, take up our cross daily and follow Jesus. But there is nothing we can’t do with the grace of Jesus Christ, nothing we can’t overcome - He is HOPE!

Who are we - the *created* beings - to question the creator??
Perhaps your stubborn will needs to be broken, so you can come to the point spiritually where you can say “God, *you* know better than me” instead of having the pride to make demands in your heart about what you think your life should be like.

Brother, with all of my heart, i PLEAD with you to just *completely* humble yourself before God. Admit to him all your faults, your fears, that you don’t understand why this is happening - and ask him to shine his light on the dark spots in your heart that you can’t see, and to lead you into his truth. The question is, will you have the humility to embrace it when he teaches it to you??

YOU *CANNOT* LOSE ABANDONING YOURSELF COMPLETELY TO A LOVING FATHER WHO HAS ALL POWER AND ALL SALVATION!!

Brother, i know it doesn’t feel like it, but there is SO much hope for you! I love you, please don’t give up ❤️❤️❤️
 

Soc1

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Hello again -
I didn’t actually give you my testimony so you could be sorry for my problems (but thank you for saying so anyways ❤️). I gave it to you to show how much we’re loved by God! If he reached out - multiple times - to a unbelieving, mocking sinner like me - imagine how much he loves us! He sent his Son to die a miserable, gruesome death for us! He loves every bit of you ❤️❤️

However, perhaps your faith is failing because it is misplaced and misguided? We can’t put God in a box and have our own ideas of how he should be - we can’t make him into what we want him to be. A loving Father we have - but one who looks out for our *spiritual health* rather than providing constant agreeable circumstances in our lives. Having a comfortable life where we always have things the way we want them does nothing for our spiritual health. For example, if there are things in this world that take first place in our hearts before God (money, entertainment, family, clothing, etc), then that is not being spirtually healthy - that is idolatry.
God wants us to be happy - but not with things that we place in our hearts before him! *We can’t see* how we’re tied down to the things of this world that we [unknowingly] place before God in our hearts. We need to *lose our life* to find it - just like Jesus did. We need to deny ourselves - deny our own wills, stop wanting *our own* will to be done and trust in God’s will! We can’t use human reasoning to build our own lives apart from God’s will. THIS IS HARD - to deny ourselves, take up our cross daily and follow Jesus. But there is nothing we can’t do with the grace of Jesus Christ, nothing we can’t overcome - He is HOPE!

Who are we - the *created* beings - to question the creator??
Perhaps your stubborn will needs to be broken, so you can come to the point spiritually where you can say “God, *you* know better than me” instead of having the pride to make demands in your heart about what you think your life should be like.

Brother, with all of my heart, i PLEAD with you to just *completely* humble yourself before God. Admit to him all your faults, your fears, that you don’t understand why this is happening - and ask him to shine his light on the dark spots in your heart that you can’t see, and to lead you into his truth. The question is, will you have the humility to embrace it when he teaches it to you??

YOU *CANNOT* LOSE ABANDONING YOURSELF COMPLETELY TO A LOVING FATHER WHO HAS ALL POWER AND ALL SALVATION!!

Brother, i know it doesn’t feel like it, but there is SO much hope for you! I love you, please don’t give up ❤️❤️❤️
I refuse to become a mindless sheep. Jesus didnt die for our sins, he died to prove a point ,that we would be resurrected.
Ive lost my daughter, while having strong faith and hope, Ive been let down trying to do all the right things in life. To the point of being disillusioned.
 

Soc1

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I can’t really tell you how to release that anger. I don’t know your faith, I don’t know your knowledge of psychology, and I don’t know you personally. Just because we know things doesn’t mean we can successfully put them all together to achieve a purpose. You do not have to unfeel anger... but it should definitely not be controlling your life so that you can focus better on that wonderful daughter of yours’ needs. Biterness can nest in you, and make you ill. We think about how hurt our child is, their suffering... we think about the sadness they have to feel and go through... and it’s enough bury us. It’s enough to eat at our insides until there is nothing left of us but hollow shells. I pray for your faith, your strength, your daughter.

❤️
We havent been promised anything by God.
 

Soc1

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Sorry for your suffering and sorry that you’re being tormented by anger. Life is tough and life as a Christian can be very tough. Not trying to give you an easy answer but something that helps & that I have experienced. The enemy wants us to hold unforgiveness and bitterness to keep us trapped. Our only way to freedom is to turn from unforgiveness and forgive the specific person for the specific hurts and ask God to fill your heart with his forgiveness and compassion for that person. Everyone needs God‘s grace just as much as we do. Most people are caught up in their own suffering when they take it out on someone else even a child. Praying for you to receive the healing in your heart that God wants you to have. Torment never comes from God.
You said" Most people are caught up in their own suffering when they take it out on someone else even a child. " Does that mean God is suffering and takes it out on us?
 

Soc1

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Hebrews 13:8 8Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

The Dead Sea Scrolls found in a cave, in 1947 match precisely, the original COPIES to a "tee". Scholars, Historians, and Archaeology have well over 24,000 documents of antiquity, which support the Bible as being a very precise Book.
Many documents do not support the dead sea scrolls as well, Many more shards of other scrolls were found as well, several gospels were left out of KJV, and since we do not have access to the scrolls and cant translate, who knows what theyve said. Tell me why are there 8-9 references to a unicorn in KJV??? John was uneducated yet he allegedly wrote Revelations? Many questionable things in the Bible.
 

RickyZ

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I'm with Soc1 on this. The whole premise of the story is flawed. God creates an entire race of beings to keep Him company. He puts that race of beings into a situation where they have no choice but to fail. And when they do fail, He says screw this I'm outta here. If I did that to MY children they'd throw me in jail. And yet we're supposed to beg and crawl for the entirety of our lives in 'worship' of this great Creator who left us to die.

Unlike Soc1 I can never deny God. I've seen and experienced far too many miracles - literal mountains into the sea type things - to say there is no God. BUT - I have also seen that for every time God intercedes and helps someone, there's 1,000 others He lets wallow in the cesspool and drown. Again, if my kids only had a .001% chance of getting help from me, they'd disown me not praise me.

But what do I know? I'm just a stupid clueless abandoned soul who oughtta be happy as pie for the .001%. 70 x 7 is actually 490. So God, where do the other 509 slaps in the face come from?

Soc1 hang in there. Ignore those who speak 'at' you of God's love with hate in their voice. You're in the cesspool and actually if you read God's word you'll find that yer not getting out any time soon. 'Persevere' is the best the Old Man can advise. That and pray for the .001%. If ya hit the prayer lotto you can see mountains fly!

And don't deny God, He is real. He's just not very good at this taking care of family thing.
 
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We havent been promised anything by God.
I’m truly sorry your faith is failing. I never even knew what faith was besides what I was told by my mother. The Bible, the living word of God, the book of life... is filled with Gods promises to us. Promises to restore, promises to comfort.... if you don’t have faith in God, or his word, then how can one possibly rely on him for answers. God is not responsible for sin... humans are. We have the power to be the change, though often faced with situations we can’t change, we learn how to change ourselves. And in our deepest darkest most desperate hour, we call out to him because we have no other options... not one person on this earth has the same relationship with our heavenly father, but he never changes. Cursing God, asking why, falling into an emotional pit... that can’t lead you to any answers, any healing, only the need for the savior even more ... but my deepest sympathy for what your going through. I too have ran incircles to and from God. Thank goodness he never leaves the one behind. 🙏 there are lots of Christian therapists, or non Christian therapists that can help you deal with situations that you may not have control over. Prayers for your spiritual healing, mental clarity, and love to break through ❤️
 

Soc1

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I’m truly sorry your faith is failing. I never even knew what faith was besides what I was told by my mother. The Bible, the living word of God, the book of life... is filled with Gods promises to us. Promises to restore, promises to comfort.... if you don’t have faith in God, or his word, then how can one possibly rely on him for answers. God is not responsible for sin... humans are. We have the power to be the change, though often faced with situations we can’t change, we learn how to change ourselves. And in our deepest darkest most desperate hour, we call out to him because we have no other options... not one person on this earth has the same relationship with our heavenly father, but he never changes. Cursing God, asking why, falling into an emotional pit... that can’t lead you to any answers, any healing, only the need for the savior even more ... but my deepest sympathy for what your going through. I too have ran incircles to and from God. Thank goodness he never leaves the one behind. 🙏 there are lots of Christian therapists, or non Christian therapists that can help you deal with situations that you may not have control over. Prayers for your spiritual healing, mental clarity, and love to break through ❤️
I need something tangible
 
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I'm with Soc1 on this. The whole premise of the story is flawed. God creates an entire race of beings to keep Him company. He puts that race of beings into a situation where they have no choice but to fail. And when they do fail, He says screw this I'm outta here. If I did that to MY children they'd throw me in jail. And yet we're supposed to beg and crawl for the entirety of our lives in 'worship' of this great Creator who left us to die.

Unlike Soc1 I can never deny God. I've seen and experienced far too many miracles - literal mountains into the sea type things - to say there is no God. BUT - I have also seen that for every time God intercedes and helps someone, there's 1,000 others He lets wallow in the cesspool and drown. Again, if my kids only had a .001% chance of getting help from me, they'd disown me not praise me.

But what do I know? I'm just a stupid clueless abandoned soul who oughtta be happy as pie for the .001%. 70 x 7 is actually 490. So God, where do the other 509 slaps in the face come from?

Soc1 hang in there. Ignore those who speak 'at' you of God's love with hate in their voice. You're in the cesspool and actually if you read God's word you'll find that yer not getting out any time soon. 'Persevere' is the best the Old Man can advise. That and pray for the .001%. If ya hit the prayer lotto you can see mountains fly!

And don't deny God, He is real. He's just not very good at this taking care of family thing.
The cruelty in this world is enough to keep us in our caves forever. But
I'm with Soc1 on this. The whole premise of the story is flawed. God creates an entire race of beings to keep Him company. He puts that race of beings into a situation where they have no choice but to fail. And when they do fail, He says screw this I'm outta here. If I did that to MY children they'd throw me in jail. And yet we're supposed to beg and crawl for the entirety of our lives in 'worship' of this great Creator who left us to die.

Unlike Soc1 I can never deny God. I've seen and experienced far too many miracles - literal mountains into the sea type things - to say there is no God. BUT - I have also seen that for every time God intercedes and helps someone, there's 1,000 others He lets wallow in the cesspool and drown. Again, if my kids only had a .001% chance of getting help from me, they'd disown me not praise me.

But what do I know? I'm just a stupid clueless abandoned soul who oughtta be happy as pie for the .001%. 70 x 7 is actually 490. So God, where do the other 509 slaps in the face come from?

Soc1 hang in there. Ignore those who speak 'at' you of God's love with hate in their voice. You're in the cesspool and actually if you read God's word you'll find that yer not getting out any time soon. 'Persevere' is the best the Old Man can advise. That and pray for the .001%. If ya hit the prayer lotto you can see mountains fly!

And don't deny God, He is real. He's just not very good at this taking care of family thing.
I need something tangible
We’re called or we seek by faith, and by faith we receive him, and by receiving Him, we present ourselves tangible to him... he is matter, he is spirit, he is overwhelming all consuming.. If that’s what you truly seek in your walk with faith. 🙏 blessings to your journey ❤️
 
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I need something tangible
And trust me. I have thought all the same things about God plus some... I hope you don’t think me rude, or arrogant.... I’m just strong in my faith, and only because I went through razor blades to find it. :/ I once described faith as illicit drug induced psychosis... and I don’t blame or judge anyone for their thoughts and feelings ❤️
 

mar09

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I am a hollow shell, saving my daughter is the most important thing I can do for her, but I need some help from God, and that is the problem lately
Soc, God is more able to do that saving we want to do or happen to our children. Let go and let God! I'll say this again, posted in other threads: All your children shall be taught by the Lord, and great shall be the peace of your children...

That's a promise, in His time. Dont look for tangibles now, wait on the Lord.
 

Soc1

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And trust me. I have thought all the same things about God plus some... I hope you don’t think me rude, or arrogant.... I’m just strong in my faith, and only because I went through razor blades to find it. :/ I once described faith as illicit drug induced psychosis... and I don’t blame or judge anyone for their thoughts and feelings ❤️
I dont think you rude or arrogant, Ive been praying for many years and earlier this year I dont know why but Im not feeling God with me. Im just fed up with waiting on a maybe, and this ever present millstone.
 

Soc1

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Soc, God is more able to do that saving we want to do or happen to our children. Let go and let God! I'll say this again, posted in other threads: All your children shall be taught by the Lord, and great shall be the peace of your children...

That's a promise, in His time. Dont look for tangibles now, wait on the Lord.
You say let go let God, another person tells me to be active in fixing this, Ive tried both

Thats crap about God being more able, God can do anything he wants right?