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Genesis 2:16-17 KJV And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: [17] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. God said nothing about touching...

You are reading into it something that wasn't actually said. (which is also the mistake Eve made) There were TWO things Eve said they couldn't do lest they die: Eat Touch Only one of those would cause them to die. The other would not. When the serpent said "Ye shall not surely die"...

Sometimes you make sense as if you're able to see and receive new information. Other times you speak as if led only by the spirit of indoctrination. (Which means the equivalent of shutting off your reasoning ability and compare what is said ONLY against the words of the doctrine you have...

I said "I understand that verse." To clarify, I said I understand the verse (which is more important than understanding proxy baptism) Here's the verse: 1 Corinthians 15:29 KJV Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for...

Don't short change me on that. I said the FIRST part is reversal of intention. The SECOND part is the follow-through. It takes BOTH parts to be fruitful/profitable. Remember John's (and Jesus') warnings about failing to bring for the FRUITS appropriate to repentance. If a lazy farmer...

Addressing this one first because it's on the actual topic (Yes, I know Im the one who caused a secondary tangent). I was using "change of heart" as meaning "reversal of intention". But you also know that RM has that problem. And being aware that he doesn't always see the details, you...

Then why did you post it in answer to a question that was only about "being baptized with the spirit"? (see Post # 328) You said "exactly the same" with only difference in timing. With that as your explanation, you are saying : You were in Jerusalem... gathered with 120-ish disciples...

I'll indulge you this honest answer as well, but I'd appreciate if you don't subvert the word through some imperfection in my answer. (That's what you were doing to Runningman a while back.) The first part of repentance is a change of heart. The next part is a change of action. John the...

That's basically a non-answer. (Meaning it sheds no light on the subject). It's not helpful. In the book of Acts, God is kind enough to give play by play accounts of what happens as people are receiving the Holy Ghost. (What happens first. What happens next. How they knew when someone...

Repentance means to turn away from a course of action. (As best I can shortly explain.) Love in Jesus, Kelby

I'm usually writing in the middle of the night when most others (in my hemisphere) are asleep. I basically have to trust God to put his word in the hearts of people even if they have forgotten the original question(s). Just saying that because I was thinking it and there's no one here to stop...

?? What do you think being "baptized with the spirit" is? Love in Jesus, Kelby

John's baptism was a baptism of repentance for remission of sins. (Mark 1:4, Luke 3:3) <--that was before Jesus died on the cross, or even started preaching. During Jesus' ministry, water baptism was continued without change. (John 3:22-23, John 4:1,2) So it continued through Jesus' ministry to...

I'm going to answer as if you're being honest in your explanation. (Because you repeatedly strike me as such) As a person starts finding God.. (Start to learn about him, seek him, ask of him, even hear his voice). It seems most encounter church doctrines about this point (either before or...

Btw, concerning not putting the cart before the horse: God established baptism for remission of sins BEFORE Jesus died on the cross. Baptism for remission of sins was done in faith of God's word by his prophet. That horse was out the gate before the rest of it followed. And God set it up...

Did you receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost? If so, what happened? How did you know you'd received it versus still needed to receive it? What changed? Love In Jesus, Kelby

One verse I said your past indicates you will take lightly is John 20:23 where Jesus says "Whose soever sins YE REMIT, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins YE retain, they are retained" So... Did Jesus give them the power to remit other people's sins? Love in Jesus, Kelby

I have been focusing on the very foundations... The first mentions... The way God himself initially set it up. When people are willing to ignore (re-write, replace, redefine) the first statements (unjust in that which is least) they are also willing to ignore the meaning of the latter...

Its not the work ofthe fleshly water... Its the answer (reply, response) of a good (functioning) conscience to the word of God. 1 Peter 3:21 KJV The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience...

it's a strait gate and narrow way. Jesus often spoke of those who hear and don't do... Or do at first but quit when the going gets tough, or get led astray by the cares (troubles, stresses), riches and pleasures of this life... they all get cast into the fire. He says many will say Lord...