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This might sound an odd compliment but you seem to me like someone who has a well thought out argument that sounds sincere (of your own thought) rather than rehearsed, and you also come across as open minded (not strongly opinionated or incensed) concerning some of the stuff I'm familiar with...

I guess I should say that at least 4 of your points (A,B, C, &D) included a phrase about believing his word. His word says "Repent and be baptized,every one of you, in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins". I believe that word to the point of submitting myself to it, in action, and I...

Most people who quote John 3:16 usually interpret it as "anyone who believes in Jesus is automatically saved" (a single step) without so much as needing to repent (although they'll add that later if you ask about it, usually along with some "sinners prayer" or other necessary work to make sure...

Even though the purpose of water baptism is established at the beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ (Mark 1:1-4) as being "for the remission of sins" before Jesus even began to teach... and is confirmed word for word in Luke 3:3... Even if people ignore,dismiss, disregard, etc those...

One obstacle in your way is that you think salvation is a one-step process. Love in Jesus, Kelby

No, that's not what it says. It only says the "unlearned or unbelievers" will think they are nuts. 1 Corinthians 14:23 KJV If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say...

This quote is why I wanted to address your comments in nearly reverse order. When YOU think of "speaking in tongues" (specifically 'unknown' tongues) are you thinking it is unknown (not understood) by the SPEAKER? Or do you think the speaker knows what he/she is saying but only the audience...

How it is a sign for unbelievers is pretty much expressed in Post#8. But I want to point out how speaking in tongues is used by believers as a sign in scripture : Acts 10:44-47 KJV While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. [45] And they of the...

In some ways I prefer to answer your points in nearly reverse order but I want to express appreciation for what you're saying here. "If 'unknown' tongues is not being spoken unto man, how could it be being spoken TO the people?" Rather than give an incomplete and/or poorly worded answer, I'm...

Why stammering lips / "unknown tongues" is the rest wherein ye may cause the weary to rest. ( @Magenta and All) Hebrews 4:10 KJV For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. If I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth but my...

It is. Paul is basically quoting Isaiah 28:11 in his 1 Cor. 14:21-22 words to the Corinthians. He's saying that because of (in accordance with) Is 28:11, tongues work as a sign to those who refuse to believe. It is something God set up; they can and do observe; yet even with that as evidence...

I took a nap then had to make a several hour run for supplies. I'll get back to you on this because I think it deserves more than the "I don't think those are all talking about the same thing" that I would say right off. "I don't think..." just doesn't strike me as a solid argument. LOL. :)...

1 Corinthians 14:22 KJV Wherefore tongues ARE for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe. ARE means "this is current". If someone wanted to say the stammering lips were about people being...

I was looking up Isaiah 28:10 as part of something for church but couldn't keep from reading verse 11. And I really want to say Thank you Jesus for giving the stammering lips and another tongue that is the rest for the people. Yes, I realize that there are those who don't appreciate speaking...

When Paul says to the Galatians "does God... work miracles among you by [Condition A] or by [Condition B]?", Paul is acknowledging that "miracles among you" is a reality in the Galatian church. When you say "Galatians isn't about the "very early church"." You are acknowledging that those same...

There are a few points I'd like to make concerning your interpretation of those two verses (more specifically the highlighted portions) Those questions are not exclusive to the church of the Galatians. They are just as valid if asked of the Ephesians in Acts 19:1-7, the Samaritans in Acts...

Baptism in terms of the gospel of Jesus (Mark 1:1) was set up (prepared) in advance of Jesus' arrival (Mark 1:2-3) by John the baptist (Mark 1:4) at the command of God (John 1:6,33). Jesus just incorporated that baptism into his ministry (John 3:22-23, & John 4:1-2) and continued it without...

It is interesting (should be noted) that the reason(s) for believing works may be (or is) part of salvation is likely vastly different for the different "groups" they listed. The first example given was one of loose values, as if some generally nice actions are probably all it takes and Jesus...

"...knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth." (Prov. 14:6)

So the fork in the road is: A) Do we take those variations as examples of the current reality? -OR- B) Do we take those variations as exceptions to the current reality? (That only occurred during a brief time of history) I consider them examples. It seems you consider them...