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  1. Chester

    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    John 10:27, 28 actually say this: My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand
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    Poll of polls on the longest running debate:

    Hmmmm?!! Interesting what I get accused of believing and not believing . . . I think there is a verse that talks about falling from grace, isn't there? “Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace” (Galatians 5:4) Well...
  3. Chester

    Poll of polls on the longest running debate:

    The promise of eternal life and that you will "never die" is to the sheep who are hearing and following. No goat who is not believing has eternal life! My faith is in God - I think I have said that several times . . .
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    Well, now I didn't say my whole belief structure is based on one verse! LOL! But I do believe every verse.
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    It really does not matter what man says: it matters what God says. He says that those who believe have eternal life. Those who do not believe do not have eternal life. I believe and therefore I know that I have eternal llfe. Pretty simple and I believe it.
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    The Bible Verse By Verse Continued...

    Ezekiel 19:12 ESV But the vine was plucked up in fury, cast down to the ground; the east wind dried up its fruit; they were stripped off and withered. As for its strong stem, fire consumed it.
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    The Bible Verse By Verse Continued...

    Ezekiel 19:11 ESV Its strong stems became rulers' scepters; it towered aloft among the thick boughs; it was seen in its height with the mass of its branches.
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    Poll of polls on the longest running debate:

    You may say whatever you want about my faith: but you won't change what I know: I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that he is able and keep that which I have committed unto Him against that day. And I know that because of God's grace and love in my heart! It has everything to do...
  9. Chester

    Poll of polls on the longest running debate:

    No, it is not me that says that faith is necessary to be saved: the Bible says that. How is it possible to be lost? when one does not have faith in Jesus Christ. And grace? Yes, hallelujah, amen - God's grace is the enabling power that even allows us to respond in faith to Him. No one...
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    No, That is called knowing who I have believed and putting my entire trust in Him
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    Appointing Elders/Bishops from Within the Congregation

    What you describe here is very clear and I agree completely. Indeed this is how the church I am a part of operates. The pastors and the deacons are chosen by the membership from within the congregation and are then ordained. There is no separate "board of elders" that makes the decisions of...
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    Poll of polls on the longest running debate:

    My assurance is not based on a doctrine or a theological debate. My assurance is based on the fact that I know Jesus Christ personally: I have walked with Him, and am walking with Him, He holds my hand as a friend and as a companion. He is as a song says - "everything to me": My assurance...
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    So am I "eternally saved, sealed by the Holy Spirit, and ONLY Jesus keeps me saved." Amen! Hallelujah! I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He can and will keep me saved. I am not leaving the faith and will not be swayed by the wiles of the Devil. You will see me in Heaven...
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    LOL! Mr. Penned: You know me well enough to know where I stand on OSAS, but then at the same time it is obvious you do not understand my position deeply either. Because none of your choices are what I believe, though the wording of the first one is the closest to what I would say. Your...
  15. Chester

    What does it mean to be "born again?"

    Do we retain free will? That is a loaded question frought with misunderstandings, arguments, and tempers! But suffice it to say it this way: Every person created by God is created in His image and does not lose that when He is born again. God never did make man a robot and that has never...
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    Did Jesus Forgive Us All Our Sins; Past/Present/Future

    Magenta, you are a gem! You are brave, determined, and courageous. Some of the rest of us might bight and devour one another if you didn't intersperse your variegated verses through our conversations. Now, of course, I still disagree with you on some doctrinal issues, but that is OK...
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    What does it mean to be "born again?"

    Being born again is a birth at the spirit level. Our first birth was a birth of flesh: physical. When a person is born again the old man (old nature) dies - Paul says in Romans 6 that it is crucified with Christ. Then there is a new birth of a new nature (Paul calls this being resurrected...
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    Did Jesus Forgive Us All Our Sins; Past/Present/Future

    The one who is not believing does not know God and does not have eternal life. Scripture says the one who is believing has eternal life.
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    Did Jesus Forgive Us All Our Sins; Past/Present/Future

    What is eternal life? What did Jesus mean when He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life"? Jesus Himself said in John 17:3: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." Eternal life is about knowing God - it is a...
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    Did Jesus Forgive Us All Our Sins; Past/Present/Future

    For God so loved the world that whoseover believeth (Greek present tense) in him should not perish, but has (Greek present tense) eternal life. John 3:16 The one who believes has eternal life. The one who does not believe does not have eternal life. Those two facts are quite clear in...