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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    That's a very vicious mischaracterization.
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    That sounds familiar. Acts 2:13 Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Granted, we have very little written to go on. If not for the Corinthians who were swinging from the chandeliers we would have even less. Yet the Apostle says... 1 Corinthians 12:1 Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed. 1 Corinthians...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    What does Peter say about the time frame? Acts 2:39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    I think that is misreading the situation. Peter did not give the order for the Holy Spirit to fall on those in the house of Cornelius. You are claiming that he had authority simply because he was present. They were shocked to see the Holy Spirit fall on EVEN the gentiles. It was UNTHINKABLE that...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    I guess we could say that the members of the house of Cornelius had the Holy Spirit fall on them "willie nillie". lol If it happened to them, why not to the Jews? I suppose we could say that the outpouring at Pentecost was rather willie nillie. They didn't really know what to expect or when it...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    If he's not plugged into a church he may need some direction and help. You could offer to pray for him and sit with him and do some simply Bible reading/study. The Gospel of John is a great place to start.
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Just a quick comment on this. Consider Ananias whom the lord sent to minister to Saul. He was not an Apostle. But when he laid hands on Saul, he received the Holy Spirit. Another good example was Timothy. How did he receive his spiritual gifts? (the church elders) Acts 9:17 Then Ananias went...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Thanks for your post. I'll give you a little background and then address each point from my perspective. My aim is not to criticize or argue or say you are wrong. I will relate what I have learned about this. I was raised Evangelical but have been in the Pentecostal church for the past 30...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    I'm not aware of any such thing. Someone may have made up this story to embarrass him. Who would remember their infant baptism? Typically they make a big deal of being dressed up. They wear a christening gown for the occasion and keep it afterwards. It is never worn but the one day. It might...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Pentecostal error? We have been looking at Acts 19 about the disciples in Ephesus. What happened when Paul laid his hands on them? They already believed in Jesus and had been baptized in water in Jesus' name. What was the purpose of what happened next? (if they already had all the Spirit...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Even Pentecostals understand that the Baptism with the Holy Spirit is a subsequent experience to salvation. And typically acknowledge that we receive the indwelling Spirit at that time. The second experience, is for the power of the Holy Spirit to come on us. (that's on, not in) Unfortunately...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    I guess I would ask them what they thought that meant. or did for them, and work from there. I think you leave a door open by accepting someone where they are and continuing the discussion from there. I wouldn't take issue with what they had already experienced. I'm more concerned about their...
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    I'm guessing you meant, "In infant baptism..."?
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    I'm not saying that blessing our children and dedicating them to the Lord is a replacement for believer's baptism. I'm just telling you what we do with our children instead of baptizing them.
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Right. What was missing was the manifestations which appeared as soon as he laid hands on them. Tongues and prophecy.
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    In our church we dedicate children to the Lord. The parents and church vows to raise them in the ways of God and bring them to Christ at a young age. Mark 10:16 And he took the children in his arms, placed his hands on them and blessed them.
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Right. The safest view is pan-trib. (it will all pan out in the end) lol
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    This is actually a strong point in support of the Rapture of the church. Then Israel will be left to deal with Messiah with us out of the way. I know this wasn't your point, but was what I was thinking about as I read your post.
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    Water Baptism-What Does God's Word Say?

    Let's put the meat back in the sandwich. (missing piece below) Israel was broken off that we might be grafted in. Romans 11:16-23 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches. 17 If some of the branches have...