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Undeserved (i.e.; sin) requires the grace of God. Bodily ailments, disease, or persecution doesn't

One other curious thing. He's talking about a very specific thing, not generalizing like sin in general, so when you look at his very personal words and a very specific or unique thing he's describing, to me he's without doubt describing something pertinent to himself. Just my observation on...

God's grace comes into play when it's undeserved such as in the forgiveness of sin. It has nothing to do with disease or other such bodily afflictions or suffering/persecuted as a Christian on his behalf. Paul besought the Lord 3 times to rid himself I'd IT, a single thing, that plagued him via...

Still 1st person singular. He didn't say we, he said I

God's grace is predicated upon being undeserved, such as in forgiveness of sin. To then say it somehow relates to persecutions we may face as Christians as did Paul, other apostles, and Christiansof that era, such as those listed by a previous poster, is ludicrous.

Edit For evmur. Furthermore, Paul besought the Lord 3 times to rid him of it, a singular thing. Paul referred to IT as "a thorn" and "this thing".

Those things wouldn't require the grace of God which equates to forgiveness. Go refigure.

Edit Granted, the interlinear is covetousness which includes a variety of things, sexual as well as others, but is a strong, insatiable desire and or appetite for whatever the object or objects of desire are. Whether sexual or non sexual, romans 7 defines Paul's thorn in the flesh in my view...

Kjv. Also, a bodily disorder or disease wouldn't merit grace from the Lord. God's grace relates to forgiveness

I listen to people that make sense and that ain't you

Yes, a demon doing what? Just hangin' out? Believe what you like and ignor the scriptures you don't like. Goodbye

Paul himself said he had a problem with concupiscence in the Roman scripture.

Common sense makes the linkage plausible. All scripture is similarly linked. You don't get a complete message for a lot of subjects by reading and relying on only scripture, such as the subject of salvation. It's necessary to limk scripture with scripture to gain a complete understanding of the...

No one clearly explained anything nor did you now. What people think is that Paul was somehow above temptation and don't want to accept the fact that he was human, and attacked by Satan at his weakness. He was not, nor was David who had such issues, nor Solomon who had a thousand wives. What...

Goodbye student. Keep studying!

"A messenger of Satan" means what? Satan tempts and and usually consistent with one's inherent weakness. The messenger of Satan is Satan tempting with something enticing. And how can it not be "a problem of the flesh" as you've insinuated by your "common sense" logic when the very words of the...

What specifically in 1 Cor 11 is the thorn in Paul's flesh? And in Romans 7, Paul is speaking of himself in the passages cited; 1st person singular.

Did you not read the Romans 7 text I posted? The answer as to what it was lies in Paul's letter to the church at Rome, Rom 7:8: The fleshly lust of 'concupiscence'. What is 'concupiscence'? Strong sexual desire; lust. The desire and enjoyment of carnal pleasure. "Strong desire, especially...

What does Romans 7 mean?

So, what does Romans 7 mean if not what it says?? Explain.