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No Fredo, we are in agreement

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Respectfully, you said: “That depends. If he continues doing the sinning after a warning or two, he should be treated as an unbeliever until he repents. If he is doing it out of ignorance as a true believer, and is warned, he will repent and will not need restoration.” For clarity, I asked you...

For clarity, could you please give some examples to justify treating a believer as a nonbeliever? For instance: Not going to Church? Drinking? Smoking? What about opposition to your church doctrine? Listening to heavy metal? Cursing? Adultry? Lying? Stealing? Unforgivess? Murder? All the above?

What is your definition of repent?

I understand but....given the context, what are you getting at? What was it, 400 years later when Moses received the Law?

It is not supposed to be that simple!!🙂

I really have not educated myself on all the “classes” that have been formed over all the quarreling, I am trying to refer to prayer for understanding ...truthfully I am still learning so much everyday.....I most definitely have a lot of growing to do....I will say, I am learning to empty my cup...

“Works” was part of this “performance based test” during the dispensation of the law......you had to do works....same as the doctrine of today with many churches you are surrounded by....”works” is weaved in through out the message, Matthews is preached to congregations all over, without...

Yes, I was speaking on the subject of “securing your salvation within the dispensation of grace” many things can look contradictory if taken out of context.....plenty of that here, dig in

I agree, but speaking on that specific matter we are discussing and within context....The law, was performance based

Amen Sypsey, thank you for posting that!

We can reconcile it by saying this... All scripture is for us, but not about us...I do not mean to ignore it as though it isn’t the inspired word of god....all scripture is needed for study and to make sense of the dispinsation we reside in..and where we are in Gods plan..as they are all tied...

TODAY ONE GOSPEL but not during these times...more than one gospel was preached, one gospel was left for us

Ok, I read over it, I also pray that the Lord helps me in this interpretation of his word. When I ask questions, I do not do it with sarcasm or as though I am speaking down to you. Why do you think Paul would even need to refer those that wanted to teach (pastors) to Our Lord and Saviors...

This was spoken in the context of salvation....it is my view that Paul is our appostle, as jesus revealed the mystery unto him to give to us....