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    Understanding God’s election

    I never said any human being was perfect, save for Christ. But thanks for your attempted correction. P.S. Thankfully, Abraham (and no doubt Sarah) both had Christ's righteousness imputed to them -- which is far, far more than what Adam received from God's hand.
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    Understanding God’s election

    I see you don't know the difference between personal and impersonal pronouns either.
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    Understanding God’s election

    But a remnant cannot logically be 100% of the population. But according to your theory, 100% of the human race was saved right after the Fall -- making that unprecedented.
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    But many positive things are said in scripture about Abraham, aren't there? In fact, God held him in such high esteem he promised to make the patriarch the father of many nations and that many nations would be blessed by his seed (Christ). Is not Abraham not the spiritual father of all...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Chapter and verse? None, heh? Just another one of your wild, crazy, off-the-wall theories?
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    Understanding God’s election

    Yeah...the spiritual dead do walk around. So, what is your point?
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    Which goes against the grain of the preponderance of evidence that is contrary to your belief. Here's something else that would be unprecedented if your theory is true: Show me any saint in the bible of whom the the scripture speaks purely and only in negative terms? We have many types of...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Okay...how 'bout a personal vendetta?
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    Understanding God’s election

    Nope. The dead don't choose anything. They need to be brought to life first. Did Adam choose to become a "living being" when God breathed his life-giving Spirit into him? But I will give you this: Adam chose to die on the day he disobeyed.
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    Huh??? "Faith is always a component of faith"??? Also, Faith is a huge component in the Creation account because as stated earlier, if A&E had BELIEVED God (like Abraham did), they would not have sinned! Their lack of faith was not only sinful but the physical manifestation of the absence...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Three things: First I absolutely disagree with the part I highlighted. The LACK of Faith/Trust that A&E had in God is the underpinning of the entire post-Fall story! If they had trusted God, they would not have disobeyed him! Their lack of faith is what led to their disobedience just as the...
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    Both the woman's and the serpent's seeds are spiritual. By "literal" for the woman, I take it you mean that her seed would be physical? But that doesn't make sense since the Serpent doesn't produce any physical offspring -- just spiritual seed. Also, if the Woman's seed is just physical in...
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    Christ is certainly the ultimate godly seed. But not the only seed. Don't forget: Even Adam gave her a name that signified that she was the "mother of all the living". And we see the interaction between the two seeds quickly when we consider Cain (the ungodly seed of the Serpent) and Abel...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Finally, this is how Eve is a type of Bride of Christ. Similar arguments to the one here can be found on the web. This has been a recognized truth for quite some time. Eve is a Type of Bride of Christ There was a very good reason that Eve was created out of Adam’s rib and then presented to...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Adam is a Type of Satan 1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived became a sinner. NIV 2 Cor 11:3 3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. NIV The...
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    The Desperate will say anything in an attempt to justify their position.
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    Here's the main argument I posted previously back on 3/27 on the Atonement thread wherein the preponderance of evidence strongly points to Unconditional Election in the post-Fall Garden. God chose to save Eve, while rejecting Adam. Since there are only two seeds mentioned in Gen 3:15, Adam...
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    Blah, blah, blah, blah... Still haven't found one explicit positive statement about Adam, have you? Next, you'll be telling us that Adam should be proud the he's contrasted with Christ all throughout scripture. :rolleyes:
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    Understanding God’s election

    But that doesn't mean that Adam appropriated by faith the sacrifice God made. I discuss this verse in my argument. Look at the Jews under the Old Covenant and how God became totally disgusted with their animal sacrifices that they MADE -- because they didn't make them with faith or in good...
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    Understanding God’s election

    But that doesn't mean that Adam appropriated by faith the sacrifice God made. I discuss this verse in my argument. Look at the Jews under the Old Covenant and how God became totally disgusted with their animal sacrifices that they MADE -- because they didn't make them with faith or in good...