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    Understanding God’s election

    I am now going to press the point I made earlier today about the Parable of the Good Samaritan. According to the non-reformed here, if God empowered his elect to believe the gospel, that would make him a wicked, malevolent tyrant on one hand, and the recipients of that kind of saving grace...
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    Understanding God’s election

    All unbelievers refuse to believe the gospel because of their pride and vanity and sense of self-importance! Pride is the Number Sin of the entire Human Race! You say you know the Parable of the Four Soils then in the next breath talk about the "self professed believers" as though they were...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Those who ask were given grace to have that kind of heart disposition. For no one seeks after God....until he effectually draws them to his Son.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Why don't just answer Rogerg's questions and demonstrate how your heresy addresses the specific issues he raised in his last post? How do the very young who die at a very young age get to exercise their "free" will to elect Christ so that God in turn can reciprocate their election with one of...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Everything I mentioned is established in scripture. For example, the Immutability of God. Since God Almighty cannot change who or what he is in his essence, then what makes you think that sinners can change their nature? Can the Ethiopian change the color of his skin, or the leopard its...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Of course, they don't know it and cannot know it because they are self-deceived. The bible does teach that there is such an animal as spurious faith. You might want to ponder the Parable of the Four Soils in Matthew 13 to learn this truth. Also, it's not pride or vanity to believe God's...
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    Understanding God’s election

    So then you agree that the sons of men cannot will a change of their essence (nature), anymore than God can change his? And you agree that the physically dead cannot will to do anything? If so, how do you make a leap from that kind of inability to ascribe all manner of spiritual ability to the...
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    Understanding God’s election

    What a butchered interpretation given what Paul said earlier about Issac and Ishmael and Jacob and Esau. Context does matter.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Well, tell me, sir: Who existed first: Esau and Jacob or the nations they eventually became? The text in Romans 9 doesn't say that God loved Israel and hated Edom. :rolleyes:
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    Understanding God’s election

    Patently false. God gives us assurance from within us and in his Word. God keeps us and true believers know it.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Wow! Unsanctified minds can roam anywhere they want -- I suppose pretty much like man's "free" will can will anything man wants. And, no, no one can "sneak in" because those in Adam want nothing to do with God. How many antediluvians ended up seeking God with all of Noah's preaching? Let's...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Yes, it is an indivisible whole. But logically speaking, the New Covenant (a/k/a NT) fulfills all the other covenants, and this is why the OT scriptures must be understood through the lens of the New Covenant which is God's latest revelation to mankind.
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    Understanding God’s election

    But those two "nations" (Jacob & Esau) were individuals that God chose BEFORE they became nations. And God's rejection of Esau in eternity (before HE did anything good or bad) sealed the fate of the nation, as Edom was as much an ungodly nation as its father was. Also, Peter exhorted his...
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    Understanding God’s election

    You have it all backwards. In the scheme of progressive revelation, the NT is concealed in the Old and Old is revealed in the New. The NT sheds more light on the scriptures; therefore, the Old must be understood and interpreted in light of the New.
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    Understanding God’s election

    You have it all backwards. In the scheme of progressive revelation, the NT is concealed in the Old and Old is revealed in the New. The NT sheds more light on the scriptures; therefore, the Old must be understood and interpreted in light of the New.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Not sure how that all fits but as far as your "MFW" goes, man's will can only operate within the constraints of his nature -- and in the case of man, man's nature in Adam is evil. There is no one good, save for God alone. The Spiritually Dead have no more moral/spiritual ability than the...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Define "sufficient". I, on the other hand, am certain, by virtue of God's grace, that Jesus is who he claimed to be and who scripture, generally, portrays him to be. You have chapter and verse for what I bolded in red?
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    Understanding God’s election

    They argue against what scripture plainly teaches in the hope that their own version of the gospel will prevail.
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    Understanding God’s election

    So doubting God and his revelation is the normal way to live the Christian life? If we can't be certain, then that leaves room for doubt. Are you certain that Jesus Christ is the Son of God -- the very God of God, yet at the same time fully human, as well? Or how can one be confident of some...
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    Understanding God’s election

    The "lake of fire" seems like an appropriate place for the "seeds" of the Serpent to spend eternity with their spiritual father. Also, God is not unjust in not saving everyone, since he didn't have to save anyone! Is God unjust for not saving the fallen angels?