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    Understanding God’s election

    I see what you are saying. I think it best to just leave it there. Thanks
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    Understanding God’s election

    Everyone is everyone though. :rolleyes:
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    Understanding God’s election

    Kindly review the history of the Israelites and God telling them to choose. You have a bit of a long explanation, but since you deny the use of the word choose and choose only to review verses you believe support what you say, it leaves one with the feeling your response is somewhat sketchy. I...
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    Understanding God’s election

    I am not sure how you are applying the word 'power' to God's grace here. I do believe we have a choice and I do believe God actually does bring us to the place where we do have that choice (accept Christ) unlike Calvinists who believe we have no choice. I think you may be conflating the word...
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    Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

    Conspiracy theory much? Yes. Please do wake up and see that while you say trust in God (kind of) you post quasi proof of your beliefs
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    Understanding God’s election

    to the exclusion of all scripture? no need to harmonize scripture? just ignore God telling us to choose from one end of the Bible to the other? so what does sanctification of the spirit mean to you in conjunction of believing the truth? I agree we are not under the law. Dropping scripture...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Honestly, I understand more and more why Paul said he only wanted to know Christ in people. For I determined not to know anything among you, save Jesus Christ and Him crucified. I Cor. 2:2 and the amplified says it like this: for I made the decision to know nothing [that is, to forego...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Two way street that. :whistle:
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    Understanding God’s election

    I don't operate on wishes. If we are in Christ, then we are blessed. That's in scripture. I don't see any prayers or statements beginning with 'and then Paul wished everyone would just listen' or Moses wished the Israelites would obey God' Those statements are probably true on a personal...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Cameron143 said: Or...because he was a Jew and writing to a Jewish audience who believed that salvation was primarily just for Jews, he was explaining that salvation was available to the whole world, and not simply Jews. I replied...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Yes. Salvation is available to the whole world. Glad you came around to that conclusion.
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    Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

    I'm thinking this thread is probably moot.
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    Understanding God’s election

    It's as valid as a 3 dollar bill to anyone who actually is acquainted with scripture. The Bible never states everyone's sins are paid for. I am sure you could not possibly think John was a universalist, so what he states as quoted below does not agree with limited atonement but he is not...
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    Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

    I can't wait. Perhaps you don't understand how inflation occurs and for some reason you think the marginal amount grocers make has caused people to change the items on their grocery list? It doesn't really matter what I believe though. That's just you wanting to kick off a personal...
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    Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

    all I hear coming from you is waaaa waaaa waaaa. Children will suck on their thumb with a blanket or something to comfort themself. Have you tried that? Perhaps hot chockie with cookies?
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    Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

    OK. Only in his case, he has already done it. The current operators out of DC undid everything he did the moment they could. Seems so many have short term memory loss. :unsure:
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    Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

    oh please :rolleyes: How far would you like to take the 'there was a time'. Let's start with this one: there was a time when men were not allowed to compete in women's sports. Now that, is perversion. If you don't agree, then maybe consider the option of changing biological sex and pretend...
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    Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

    Trump has served 4 years. We know what he is going to do. He has been taught a very strong lesson regarding how DC operates and will take steps to make sure things do not go the same way with enemies in his own camp. That being said, it's good to see you recognize who is responsible for the...
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    Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

    best you can come up with? we all know that is a bunch of hooey. Trump is not a felon nor a sex pervert. You may not care for Trump's remarks he has made in the past regarding women (I don't either), but that does not make him a pervert. A pervert would be sniffing women's hair and biting...
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    Understanding God’s election

    now I do what? no one is biting that bait