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    The relationship between the Remission of Sins, the Blood of Jesus, and receiving the Holy Ghost

    @2ndTimothyGroup , There's a lot in your post #109 and I think I'll limit my answer, for now, to the first 2 or 3 things in it. Plus, I don't claim to have read all postings that were not directed at me in some obvious way. What do you mean,specifically, by "the Curse of the Lord"? And is...
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    The relationship between the Remission of Sins, the Blood of Jesus, and receiving the Holy Ghost

    I kinda see what you're saying here, but there is something(s) wrong about it. It doesn't acknowledge that the Comforter (the Holy Ghost) wasn't even available until after Jesus ascended to Father. Although a certain degree of protection from sin (and the effects of sin) has always been...
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    The relationship between the Remission of Sins, the Blood of Jesus, and receiving the Holy Ghost

    This is indeed what we see. From that, I learn "This is what is possible". It seems you took some other meaning. Those two examples were indeed different from one another. <--I see that. Again, that tells me that BOTH of those scenarios are possible (otherwise they couldn't have happened)...
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    The relationship between the Remission of Sins, the Blood of Jesus, and receiving the Holy Ghost

    You're actually moving toward the other aspect of salvation that I'd so far left unsaid in this thread. It has to do with what made John the baptist (and his baptism) so important. It is stated so simply that we overlook what he was doing (both in believing what it says and acknowledging the...
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    The relationship between the Remission of Sins, the Blood of Jesus, and receiving the Holy Ghost

    Hi Blain, Steven Covey taught that concept of "the best way to learn is to consider that you will soon be required to teach it to someone else" in his book "7 Habits of Highly Effective People" (Which I highly recomment). But I'm sure he wasn't the first. This may be a very bold statement...
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    The relationship between the Remission of Sins, the Blood of Jesus, and receiving the Holy Ghost

    The KJV says "after that ye believed, ye were sealed" ... which I've heard some interpret as "at some point after" and others interpret as "as soon as". That's why I appreciate the God-given examples so much. Examples show the chronological order that may still be easily...
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    The relationship between the Remission of Sins, the Blood of Jesus, and receiving the Holy Ghost

    Because the first case of the outpouring of the Holy Ghost happened at a time separate from (not simultaneous with) the time when the first believers believed... It is fair to suppose that the Holy Ghost can/would/could/will continue to be poured out at times separate from (not simultaneous...
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    The relationship between the Remission of Sins, the Blood of Jesus, and receiving the Holy Ghost

    Actually I think I need a nap before writing more. :) Love in Jesus, Kelby
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    The relationship between the Remission of Sins, the Blood of Jesus, and receiving the Holy Ghost

    My appreciation to all who have read and commented so far. And my apologies for not replying yet, if anyone was wanting me to reply directly to something they said. I'm going to try to post specifically on the topic of the OP for now, lest I get distracted. Feel free to continue the friendly...
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    The relationship between the Remission of Sins, the Blood of Jesus, and receiving the Holy Ghost

    I propose that God does not have a problem with salvation coming one piece at a time. (instead of everything happening all at one moment as man has taught us). That's a bold statement. Can it be proven in the scriptures? It’s not hard if you remember/consider/realize that God separated the...
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    Saved by Water

    Thanks for the reply. I'm thankful you express faith in Jesus and were willing to submit to water baptism as a matter of good conscience. May I ask what you mean by Baptized by the HS? I think it means something specific and observable, but that perspective seems to be the minority amongst...
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    Saved by Water

    Those are good questions. God is the only one who has the authority to give...which is why a person has to be a minister called of God , not self-appointed or even church-appointed or internet-ordained. That's why it's written in Romans 10:14-15 KJV: "How then shall they call on him in whom...
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    Saved by Water

    Yes, continued when I wake up (hopefully). I had to work last night and just got home. Love in Jesus, Kelby
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    Saved by Water

    In both this quote and your next posting after it you failed to repost the one part of what I said that directly addresses why you misunderstand Acts 10:43 and large portions of the Cornelius account and other scriptures. And it was this: "If you can't acknowledge the purpose of baptism when...
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    Saved by Water

    oops. forgot the last part "What that means is that remission of sins was scripturally proven to be available BEFORE either 100% trust in Jesus OR the receiving of the Holy Ghost were even available." Love in Jesus, Kelby
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    Saved by Water

    @justbyfaith the statement including "BEFORE either of the things you've claimed" was written towards @FreeGrace2 's claim, not yours. Just an FYI there. I should have written it more clearly.. something along the lines of : "What that means is that remission of sins was scripturally proven...
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    Saved by Water

    Remission of sins was available before Jesus died through John's baptism as it is written: "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." - Mark 1:4 KJV This is possible because the sins(or debts for sin) were removed (remitted) from the...
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    Saved by Water

    @justbyfaith In answer to request to show that remission of sins is accomplished through water baptism INDEPENDENT of receiving the Holy Ghost... The scriptural support was put in place quite awhile before Cornelius. In John the Baptist's day,,,when Jesus hadn't been revealed even to John...
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    Saved by Water

    Even as clearly as that was stated, there are still at least two things not accurately stated. One was that of "placed squarely on the back" which is a figure of speech but I'm guessing you'll all understand the meaning. If someone catches the other one, I'll give them acknowledgement and...
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    Saved by Water

    This post is for any who want clarification as to the relationship between baptism and the blood of Jesus. In John the baptist's time, the sins were remitted (removed, washed away, forgiven) from the perpetrator.. and placed squarely on the back of Jesus, WAITING for Jesus to take them to the...