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Worked, not 'worded' special miracles. (Typo)

I failed to include this aspect while describing the "conflict" I had while answering you (because I didnt want to explain so many details at once that it became confusing). Your point is valid in that we CANNOT rely on our own strength or goodness, we CANNOT take credit for anything done...

I appreciate and have respect for that concept and intend to say nothing to discredit it. I had that exact thinking and for similar reasons. There is enough fleshly thinking and behaviour in this world already. I had no intentions of adding to it. And I know that God is able to get his point...

And that kind of thinking cost the children of Israel dearly. That's why I'm speaking against it so fervently. Love in Jesus, Kelby

I appreciate your humble nature and encourage you to take all the time you need to respond. We're here as a resource for you. Love in Jesus, Kelby

In response to this, I am actually amazed by some of the things I've been suffered to remain in the room to see. Oh, I forgot to say in last posting that God was able to do mighty works through those few mentioned individuals (Which would also include Paul and Peter, etc.) WHILE they were...

That's a perfect set of verses for what I was trying to express. God is GLORIFIED in the answering of the prayers (even the miraculous ones) of his children. He says in another place "the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them...

I want to express appreciation for your poem, and for your overall respect for the beauty of proper wording. I feel the poem does a good job of expressing your point of view both thoroughly and in a way that is melodic. The line that stood out the most to me was this one: "What count we now...

Hi Paul, This isn't a "Hey, you shouldn't have done all that research" because I consider it admirable when someone has researched something more than I have. But I, being someone somewhat removed from the normal courses of study (by situation) and from high concentrations of natural...

Proverbs 14:4 KJV Where no oxen are, the crib is clean: but much increase is by the strength of the ox. Some are willing to sacrifice (deny) power in order to keep their 'form' of godliness. :( Love in Jesus, Kelby

@shittim But I get what you mean. The principle of sowing and reaping cannot be broken. Love in Jesus, Kelby

Who would want to?! Lol :)

@Lafftur BTW, where's the "BRAVO!!" icon? :)

Wowsers! That's deep! Love in Jesus, Kelby

That's a fair line of questions and I feel Wansvic did a good job of describing it. I basically agree and will just add a few things because I was the one talking about praying an hour in tongues. You are invited to ask for as many details as you like and I will do my best to answer you...

Hypocrisy meaning in the use of the premise. Hypocrisy as meaning "the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense". Granted, if your focus is on the word "fix", perhaps I could have used something better or even just gone...

Making it 28 pages is impressive. Sorry that threads on Tongues often go that way. Sorry to see you go if you had interest or comments to share, but getting frustrated is understandable. Love in Jesus, Kelby

I like that you posted those verses together because I think it shows you have a fairly good grasp of what's going on. It's being close (in the secret place of his pavilion, under his wings, shut in, etc) with God that provides the protection... rather than being physically distant from what...

@PaulChristensen Just as an FYI, I think Sophie has me on ignore. So she might not even see what I'd posted, making it seem to her like your post was answering nothing at all. Love in Jesus, Kelby

Have you considered the inherent hypocrisy of your premise? If you take up your cross and follow him, YOU are the one taking up the cross. It's not wrong to be involved in your own improvement. Such as: "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind...