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Yes, they are Jewish and who. do you think you are grafted into? I don't want to argue with you. I just. stated how I see it. not arguing with God That is silly. And I'm not arguing with you. You see the 144,000 being Jews of the flesh. I see the 144,000 being and Jews of the spirit. And God's...

It's got nothing to do with being envious or jealous. It's all about the doctrine. but you can put it into the physical realm if you like. Jesus changed the name of the disciples and left. their old names behind. It opened up for everyone. and moved into the spiritual realm. and spiritually we...

I do accept how God's laid out in the Bible, But I see him talking about it in the spirit, where you see him talking about it in the flesh.

I put in all the years of study. and all the years of preaching the gospel and winning souls for the Lord. And what do I get? I get no protection during the tribulation. That's according to you. When I was a kid. we were the elect of God. And now we're not.. And it was commanded them that...

That's one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is who are the people of God? Who are the servants of God? We are the ones that are obedient We are the ones. that have studied the word. Why would God be interested in the flesh? There is no envy on my part just concerned. that...

I still have my doubts. I think we've been grafted in to the 12 tribes, and these names are us. What's the flesh got to do with anything as soon as Jesus comes the flesh is dead and we get our new bodies. I just can't see it being right. We are grafted into the 12 tribes, not to one tribe, but...

Maybe. But definitely Christians.

Here's another one to seal the deal. 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. So the 144,000 are protected from the wrath, so they have to be Christians. “And it was commanded them that...

I bet you can't show me in the Bible where Jesus comes before the tribulation. But I can show you in the Bible where Jesus comes after the tribulation. He comes at the last trumpet Revelation11. in the clouds.

You put a smile on my face.

Sorry, but it sounds to me like you're saying you don't need Jesus to be saved. if the 144,000. are Jews of the flesh. and not Jews of the spirit. Then you don't need Jesus to be saved. And Jesus said no man comes to the father by me God doesn't bless disobedience and the disobedience is the...

I think I stuck something on the wrong post.

I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not trying to debunk the 144,000. The 144,000 are Christians. Grafted into the 12 tribes as there's nowhere else to graft us into. I just debunked the theory of Paul only talking to the Jews. When Paul talks to one, he talks to all, because we are...

Please that's all-ready being debunked. The pretrib rapture is just wishful thinking And has been debunked. Let's get down to the truth. and leave these fallacies behind.

Who drew the map of the Roman Empire? I'd like to know, because the Roman Empire was ruling over Israel when Jesus. was alive.

Sorry I shouldn't have been so harsh on you I fell down the hole that I said I wouldn't fall down. I was too harsh. Let's start again, please. I don't mind if you call me doctrine of devils. It does not matter.

That is such a racist comment.

I was hoping you would come out of the woodwork. What Paul says to one says to all. If a Jew can be a spiritual Jew by faith and circumcised in heart. then so can a Greek. because we are all one people. There are no two peoples. and As for the 144,000 they are Christians, whether they be Jews...

Thank you I love this post. It's just inspiring. Calling it doctrine of Devils. when it's not even doctrine is just my thoughts and my feelings and speaking about them. It would be a terrible day when we can't share our thoughts and feelings with our brothers and sisters. And then having a...

No thank you for all your loving posts. They're beautiful. Love is the backbone to everything we do and we can't go wrong.