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//The truth is that we don't have a single English translation on which to rely// This should scare you. This is exactly where I used to be . Now I see its the Kjv .

I'm saying the logical conclusion is if we don't have a Single English translation to depend on then we are left with the scholars opinions and a 'patch work ' mixture of all translations which may or may not be the 'correct / best / oldest / reliable / preferred/ rendering/ should not be...

That's begging the question .

That wasn't 'you ' , that's who ( the scholar) we have to turn to to figure it out .

Again we need a bible corrector to straighten us out .

Thats a great point . I didn't notice that one .This is yet another time where the context makes no sense in the modern translations .

I now trust the bible . Before I couldn't really say I trusted any English Translation. I thought I had to learn Hebrew and Greek to REALLY understand the bible.

My point is that I used to hold to your position . So i was looking for the modern transja I won't convince you . I was only convinced by the bible study I had . Maybe that would convince you the same ?

Give it a try .

I've spent the majority of my years as a Christian believing the KjV was in error compared to the modern translations . So actually its quite the turn a round ,for me .

No , we literally Just simply had a bible study . The translation issue wasn't on our minds at all at the start . The focus was a bible study . But it was a great opportunity to compare the difference.

I used to agree with most of what you said . Until i started a small bible study group . Its been on going now for over 2 years . We all have different translations . I never used to think the Kjv was the the best translation we have ,until this bible study ( half way through ) . I was shocked...

Agree .

I agree . I do think people are ' knocked ' by systematic theology ,when they would have been better off simply reading the bible .

Yes Jesus said to the apostles / disciples that the Holy Spirit would do that for them . To bring it to their rememberence .Then we read what the Holy Spirit reminded them . This could be an example to my point .

You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink it.

Of course the question is aimed at saved people and the Holy Spirit ,is a given .

No ,thats not what I meant .

This seems to be the issue with many 'differences ' . What method are we using ? This is key . Are we seeing even basic reading comprehension fly out the window and 'mystical ' ethereal ' , approaches being adopted instead ? which is the best approach ,and why ? Thoughts?

My point is about 'generalising ' . I'm not questioning the Author . Because its from God, we better understand it properly. I'm literally taking it back to absolute basics . Reading comprehension basically .