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    The Law

    With respect, Your generalising. If I receive a letter in the post . It could be for me ,my wife ,or my Children. I don't assume every letter is to me. A little simple detective work and I'm able to check who its written too . Usually we check the front of the envelope . After this we can...
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    Save us from sin v Save us from Hell ?

    Which verses are you thinking that say this ?
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    The Law

    I believe we are guided by the Holy Spirit . The law was to drive people to Christ .Its Grace that teaches us to deny ungodliness . King James Version Titus 2 11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly...
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    The Law

    Not aimed at the Church.
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    The Law

    John 1:17 “For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
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    The Law

    I've never said God favors the Israelites with His word, or that we are excluded?
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    The Law

    So long as we understand this . Rom 3 21¶But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
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    The Law

    I Agree that we should not hate the law . We need to understand it . Can we be clear though that were not UNDER it as Christians?
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    What is the Sacred Name Movement ?

    Yes I agree . It can creep into many denominations, in a subtle way without realising it . Those with Greekitus lean a little this way sometimes.
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    Save us from sin v Save us from Hell ?

    Not sure what your point is ?
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    The Law

    "The thief on the cross didn't have much time but was saved" .. Exactly.
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    The Law

    but ye HAVE obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you
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    The Law

    Ok so a person receives Jesus on Monday but dies on Friday, is he still saved?
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    The Law

    Could you explain to me how a person is saved today ?
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    The Law

    I would see you ,at best ( with respect) as a weaker Sister . 12¶For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13For every one that...
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    The Law

    Each verse you just quoted that pertains to eternal life is to Israel . Like Matthew 19 . Thats why you will not see a verse from Paul that says such a thing . Go find one thats written to the body of Christ. Matt 19 .17 . Contradicts what your saying .
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    Save us from sin v Save us from Hell ?

    In discussions about the law , grace , works, Faith , Lordship salvation, Conditional salvation and such ,that there seems to be an interesting thing that comes to the surface . A focus on being saved from sin . I used to listen to David Pawson in my early years as a Christian and this seemed...
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    The Law

    It wasn't a compliment. John 1:17 “For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
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    The Law

    A Christian is not to have 'training wheels on 'Hes not UNDER the law . What he has is better than what the law could do . The law is for the ungodly .
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    Works

    What you need for your position to be the case is where Paul gives this step by step . His whole 13 epistles should say what your saying ,if indeed the law is the goal, or the guidance to live the Christian life . Paul would say it ,because Paul is giving the instructions to the Body of Christ...