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“You will understand that my (atheism) was inevitably based on what I believed to be the findings of the sciences; and those findings, not being a scientist, I had to take on trust—in fact, on authority.” - C. S. Lewis, Surprised by Joy. That is my definition of Scientism, Jocund. For...

Correct. Science is the gathering of data. Science doesn't "say" anything at all - one way or the other.

Concerning the time lapse that you linked... I'm making no assertion one way or the other, but just out of curiosity, would it be possible to artificially create a black screen with white dots moving across it? A simple Yes or No will suffice.

I don't think you know what it means to "challenge bad arguments". To be sure, you have claimed that my arguments are bad, or that I am misunderstanding something, or that I am making a logical fallacy, etc. But making unsupported claims that I am wrong - simply because you say so - is...

Really? You don't know what the modern heliocentric model is? The one we were all taught in school? Does the above model, in which the earth is one of many planets orbiting the sun in outer space, align with the Biblical teaching that heaven is a solid barrier, and has floodgates that can...

Well, right now I'm trying to have a respectable discussion about why the Bible says there are floodgates in heaven, and how that could possibly fit into the modern heliocentric model. What do you think? Can it? If so, how?

Hi Jocund. I am very much enjoying our discussion. I will respond as soon as I can. When I do, I'll probably break it up so we have a chance at resolving one point at a time. Right now we're writing novels back and forth to each other, which makes it easy for things to get overlooked, and...

There actually is. It's sad that most people today will talk to people on social media in ways they'd never talk to a person in real life. But just like you are free to act that way, I am free to call your action what it was... butting in to something that didn't concern you. Anyway, what...

You haven't tried to actually DISCUSS anything since you joined this thread. 😂 I have jumped through your last hoop, sir. It matters very little to me whether you stick around or not. If you do, get busy on the point you feigned (but never actually made) concerning the word raqia. Get busy on...

I didn't make clear what I was asking you. You said the question (of star trails/heliocentrism) was ANSWERED by Copernicus. I'm asking what Copernicus' answer was, and how his answer was verified. The answer to my question is: Copernicus' answer was to create a mathematical model in which...

Well, you could always prove me wrong by demonstrating that you ARE interested in a respectable adult discussion. 😅

Lame attempt to save face. I've demonstrated what the word means, what its root word means, and how the Hebrews considered the properly translated firmament (named "heaven" by God) to be a solid vault covering the earth, and holding back the waters above the heaven. Try just answering a...

Not yet. Dino clearly isn't interested in a respectable and honest discussion of whether or not the Bible and Scientism blatantly and largely contradict each other. He is only interested in playing games that he seems to think make him look like some great intellectual debater. But he serves...

Easier to show this one with a screenshot... I posted screenshots from the search results. Search results usually contain a linked title of an article, and then a little snippet of the article below that title, which contains some of the search terms you used. Dino, are you saying that...

I did that yesterday, showing your clear mistakes in multiple posts... mistakes you haven't directly addressed for some reason. 🤔 1. My questions were valid - as evidence by the source I presented yesterday that says "it is gravity that BINDS the atmosphere to the earth". 2. My questions...

You can trust God's written word, Blue. If it says creation in 6 days about 6000 years ago, you can trust that as the truth - no matter how much indoctrination we've all been put through since we were kids in kindergarten. 🙂🙏

Mindless tripe that doesn't address my point. Diversion designed to avoid addressing my point, and makes no actual explanation of HOW I have suggested more than what the science supports. Mindless tripe that doesn't address my point - or any point at all. You basically just posted a single...

As God is my witness, I almost ended that post with the parenthetical statement: (Of course, Dino will now divert from the point by responding, "Where can I read 'to let the waters above heaven flood the earth' in that verse?") I swear to God, people, I almost did that! 😅😂 Apparently, Dino...

I don't blame you at all. But for now, he serves my purpose.

What was that answer? And how was it verified?