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I have... many years ago. From Brown-Driver-Briggs... the vault of heaven, or 'firmament,' regarded by Hebrews as solid, and supporting 'waters' above it, Genesis 1:6,7 (3 t. in verse); Genesis 1:8 (called שָׁמַיַם; all P), Psalm 19:2 ("" הַשָּׁמַיַם), ׳זֹהַר הָר Daniel 12:3; also ׳ר...

So then those 4 screenshots of articles written by "defenders of Scientism" that I posted - which said the same thing I told you they said - wasn't enough? And how did you discuss that "substance" - after I gave you what you're asking for now? With games and diversions. "You didn't provide...

Speaking of which, when do I get my apologies? When did I do that?

"Scientism" is very clearly defined by me in the OP of the thread. Yes. Light itself was created on day one - and is in fact the mechanism for there to BE a day one. It was the creation of light, and the separation of that light from the darkness, that constituted a "day" on earth. One...

See how Dino tries to completely avoid the meat of my point with a condescending remark from an imagined position of superiority (ie: YOUR inferior intellect has caused YOU to MISUNDERSTAND Scripture)? And here's how we handle it... Dino, does the Bible say that God opened the floodgates of...

Yep. Dino is a diversion artist. He is very adept at avoiding the meat of the matter with condescending remarks made from an imagined position of superiority, and which are designed to to nothing but distract from the very clear point that the other guy is actually making. You'll see a...

I saw it immediately, and was cheering that another member not only saw through the games that some people play, but actually had to the nerve to call them out for it like I do. I was even going to comment with a "Hip, hip, hooray", but then you seemed to have changed your mind after having...

Your statement certainly applies to one of us. I gave an example of a virtually windless, very calm day - of which there are many in AZ, and I suspect, many other places in the world. My assertion (based on the Scientism model) was that the rotation of the atmosphere on days like that would...

Hi Blue. I used scripture and my calculator to address that for someone else just yesterday. Here's a link to that post... https://christianchat.com/threads/bible-vs-scientism.205714/post-4872488

To what end? To provide another diversionary tangent for you? Dino, the Bible describes heaven as a firm barrier/vault/tent over the earth that supports the waters above it, and in which the sun, moon, and stars run appointed circuits over the earth. It has floodgates that can be (and were)...

I didn't post the links because everything I needed to show you was in the snippets of the articles contained in the screenshots I provided... Do you see the words, "the atmosphere spins along with it as a result of friction with the ground" under the title of the article? You claimed that...

The next time you try to un-debunk a thorough debunking that I gave you, try reading more than just the titles. 😉

The centrifugal force, no matter how tiny you imagine it to be, would fight AGAINST the gravity and the spinning atmosphere, so I'm not sure why you'd bring that up when you can't adequately explain the phenomenon without adding in the centrifugal force. I truly appreciate you trying. But...

But it's not. You call it "held down" to the earth. I have called it "velcroed", "affixed", and "stuck" to the earth. One of those sources I presented called it "bound" to the earth. And all of those sources I presented agree that the cause is a combination of gravity and friction. How can...

I will accept, for argument's sake, that gravity holds the molecules down. But how do we get from the atmosphere being held down to the atmosphere moving as a unit at 1000+ mph - just because a ball beneath it, to which it is NOT permanently "velcroed", spins? Scientism claims that the source...

Yet you presume to place boundaries on me for politely speaking my mind? If not, what exactly was the purpose of you butting into this thread to address me concerning Magenta and the OP?

But the sources I showed you say that they are... and the very idea of an atmosphere rotating along with a spinning ball would require it. Those sources say it is physical friction between the earth and the air molecules - due to the molecules being bound to the earth via gravity - that cause...

Since my understanding is consistent with the claims made in the screenshots I posted above, are they all wrong too? Those sources say that it is FRICTION between the earth and the atmosphere that BINDS the atmosphere to the earth, right? Does FRICTION require physical contact, Dino? Your...

How many imperatives did you find before you scolded me? 🙂 Max, you have successfully strained the gnat by picking out a snippet of Peldom's statement that you could refute on a technicality, but you have swallowed the camel in that you didn't acknowledge to him that his overall assessment of...

Hi Max. My day is going splendidly, thanks. So far, I don't have any reason to not like you. Besides, how could an unlikeable guy come up with such a hilarious avatar? 😂 I just assumed, as peldom10 has also pointed out, that you overstepped your bounds in an attempt to protect the chick with...