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  1. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    Too many sources to count. Here are just a few... Notice the claim that gravity BINDS the atmosphere to the earth in that third example. Now why would any reasonable person, confronted with a claim that gravity causes our atmosphere to rotate along with the earth, bring up the concept...
  2. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    Now you only need to show that I actually did misrepresent what Magenta said. Here's what she said: "Velcro? It's called gravity." How did the questions I asked, or my polite request for further explanation, misrepresent anything she said? And if you cannot present proof of me actually...
  3. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    I actually do, since your response was not another tiring attempt at diversion, but what seems to be your best attempt to quietly acknowledge the validity of my argument, without actually doing that.
  4. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    How about me? Am I also free to participate in whatever manner I please? And if so, then it seems we have a series of events in which Magenta participated in the manner of her choosing, and then I participated in the manner of my choosing by calling her "snipe and hide" tactics out. So far...
  5. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    But it is specifically communicated in the Bible. Just from Genesis we know that: The earth was 6 days old when Adam began to exist. 130 years old when Seth was born. 235 when Enosh was born. 325 when Kenan was born. 395 when Mahalalel was born. 460 when Jared was born. 622 when Enoch was...
  6. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    Agreed. I particularly like that the artist included the "floodgates of heaven" - which God opened to let the waters above heaven pour through to flood the earth in Noah's day, and then closed. (Gen 7:11, 8:2) That's another very tough one for defenders of Scientism to explain. Anyway...
  7. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    Hi Gary. When it happens to me, I usually just hit "Close All" and shut down all the apps and browser pages that were opened. A few days after my phone gave the sad face to Dino, I pulled it out of my pocket to see Christian Chat opened up, front and center. I was thinking, "I wonder whose...
  8. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    Hmm... I'm pretty sure that asking valid questions cannot rightfully be a "strawman fallacy" - especially when those questions are followed up with a polite and sincere request for further clarification. The Scientism claim: The atmosphere moves along with the rotation of the earth. My...
  9. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    Note that Jesus didn't say the servant owed a man the money, but a king. Note also that Solomon was taking in almost 1000 talents of gold every year - which was worth 20 times as much as silver. Solomon used 10,000 talents of silver just in the construction of God's Temple! 2 Chronicles...
  10. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    So then, just remove the word "physically", and you'll give me the answer I've been asking and asking for? Okay. Owing a debt of 10,000 talents is NOT impossible. Seeing a very tall tree from everywhere on earth IS impossible. Seeing all the kingdoms of the earth from a very high mountain IS...
  11. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    That remains to be seen. I'm sure your (or Magenta's) explanation of how it actually does work will confirm that it was indeed my misunderstanding after all, and we can put this thing to bed. Can I assume that an explanation is forthcoming? Again, that remains to be seen. How can we be sure...
  12. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    Really? Then please, by all means, help me out. Please clearly explain to me what I'm focusing on, why it is the wrong thing, and what thing I should be focusing on. 🙂
  13. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    There was no "must" implied. This is a discussion forum. Most people on discussion forums post things they believe and are then willing to explain (and even stand and vigorously defend) their beliefs to those who see things differently. You made an assertion, and I simply talked out how I...
  14. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    Thanks for your honest and direct answer. Dr. Michael Heiser, who also believes we live on a spinning ball orbiting the sun, had an artist create this image of Hebrew cosmology, ie: the world as described in the scriptures... What do you think about it? Aside from the Bible saying that the...
  15. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    I'm all ears. Gravity holding the atmosphere to the earth is the assertion that Magenta made, right? I simply gave my understanding of what such a mechanism would entail, and politely asked for an explanation. You have since taken Magenta's assertion to the next level with your addition of...
  16. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    Hmm... Could you explain to me how using an example that is NOT physically impossible is basically the same thing as using an example that IS physically impossible? In that case, I don't understand the meaning of these words you said to me... What was the meaning of that statement if I'm not...
  17. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    Yep. No scientific evidence whatsoever of big bang, deep time, or common descent evolution.
  18. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    And this gravity holds the entire atmosphere securely to the face of the ball? Is that the idea? Each molecule of gas remains exactly in the same spot in relation to the earth at all times? Please explain.
  19. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    What? You basically claimed that since Jesus a teaching tool that is implausible - but NOT physically impossible - it logically follows that Jesus would also use a teaching tool that IS physically impossible. The latter most certainly DOESN'T logically follow the former. What was the high...
  20. M

    Bible Vs Scientism

    In other words... Jesus using an event that WASN'T a physical impossibility to make his point means it is logical to assume that Jesus also used an event that WAS a physical impossibility to make his point. I think that's called a non sequitur, Dino. I consider the tall tree and the high...