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We are to check for signs of toxic leadership, and not tolerate it: https://thomrainer.com/2014/10/fourteen-symptoms-toxic-church-leaders/ We do not want abusive leaders, but it should not turn into mob rule by the members either.

And I am sure all were praying and fasting, and persons payed attention to those brothers and sisters with the gift of discernment for input, and also checked the Scriptures to see if things aligned.

I was clear that it seemed like so, because of the way you portrayed it. "We the members", the members... , it sounded like a member's church and not Jesus' Church. By your reaction and mischaracterization, you just confirm to me that a lot of "member" input is involved. Have you prayed...

SpoonJuly wrote: "So who decides in your charismatic church?". The Holy Spirit gives input when is important. SpoonJuly wrote: "Every charismatic/pentacostal church in my area is ruled by the pastor." There are cases and exceptions. Story: A Pastor was looking to buy property to start a...

Excellent observations, maybe you could draft an article about rituals: valid and spurious, etc. Blessings.

Negative, I said it seemed like a man driven one. And waited for your clarification. You make it seem like members decide, and do not acknowledge how God's input is taken into consideration. Democracy does not equal godly decisions. If the key player is not taken into account (Holy Spirit). I...

I was exchanging ideas with some believers about this. My understanding is that women are not to set / develop doctrine. What is not clear if they are ok to do evaluation of doctrine and communication of doctrine. There was a women prophet in the OT, now a days there are no more prophets in the...

No idea, it was removed in some posts but I got it from one post that actually had it.

LOL Meditation during workout... excellent concept (joke follows not trying to offend): "God be my Shepherd, allow me to survive this grueling workout of the day (WOD).. Even though I walk through the valley of burpee box jump overs, I will fear no fall, because You gave me common sense to...

I am surprised by your attitude. Note that I clearly said it seemed like the Church you describe is a man driven organization. I then proceeded to quote Scriptures to compare, and waited for your clarifications. All you did then: mischaracterize me as criticizing your Church (which I can't...

Could this be it? http://www.inplainsite.org/html/fraternizing_with_the_enemy.html?fbclid=IwAR2Ea2J6NKasYkIbJzLPu1DL5U6y6fL-kC6bxocDo8P-y1l8kKCkJAwRWZ0

I see there is a fine use of certain terms, that most of us do not have available from your tradition's perspective. Roughly I though you said that focusing in the reality of denominationism, and the effects of it is a straw man of sorts. Most of us know from experience or reference that...

I do get your point Christ did appear to the Apostles on Sunday. Now what really happened, is that the Apostles were most likely expelled from Synagogues because they preached Jesus Christ the Lord and Savior. So even if they wanted to, they could most probably not go to the Synagogue. The...

Some of us have to work for a living you know. If there is a fake of something, it usually means that somewhere there must be a genuine. Have you visited ever a Charismatic church (of good standing), and that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are working (including the higher ones). If you ever...

LOL, we go back to the definition problem: what is church? a building run by a denomination with systems and subsystems, or is it a gathering of believers to worship and exalt Jesus Christ?

From the Scripture verses that I quoted, can you see a pattern? Holy Spirit gifts, input by the Holy Spirit, God manifesting to persons with higher gifts of the Spirit what really is in the heart of a person, and even if the person is fit for office according to God... does that seem to be the...

Hi Blik: the second paragraph brings to limelight some interesting concepts. Does Christianity have rituals of other kind? Some charismatic authors describe a change in priestly duties from the temple (original) to our very body as the New Temple (body of Christ). They say that when we received...

John 20: 1 Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. 2 So she ran and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved, and said to them, They have taken the Lord...

Thanks for the clarification SpoonJuly. Acts 13:2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them. Acts 13:4 So, being sent out by the Holy Spirit, they went down to Seleucia, and from there they...

Do not get me wrong maxwel, I think what you wrote is very illustrative, but seldom are break ups in groups due to non essentials. The splits are precisely because what groups consider very essential. To be clear, I think Calvin is important, has much to teach us, but it looks like some people...