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No, but the point is they are being warned it CAN happen. This is why we have all these warnings... because it can happen. And if they have done it, the last state will be worse than the first. How else can anybody get into a state worse than the lost state before christ?

20For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. 21For it would be better for them not to have known the way of...

True, but they didn't believe that in the beginning, for they were actually saved.

Happens all the time. Some people think they're close to God, yet follow false doctrine that's Christianese. They were fooled along the way. Remember Paul speaking to the Galatians about "who has bewitched you?"

Falling away specifically means there WAS a previous relationship. Sinners CANNOT fall away because they were already far from God.

EVERY epistle is a book for the church to read & live by, but never for the world. The world cannot discern it. When they speak about leaving God, they speak to those only who had a real relationship with Him. They choose to rebel from Him. Sinners cannot rebel from God because that would mean...

Anyone who walks away from God IS a fool.

I can choose to never walk with God again. Does that mean I never ever had a relationship with Him at all? People break off relationships with their spouses all the time. They grow apart, no longer compatible. One can still be loving while the other doesn't feel anything. Divorce happens over...

You don't. I can dislike anyone whenever I want. I can turn away from someone I was personally close to who I think has betrayed me. Broken relationships happen all the time, even when it's not their fault.

We know lots of people of whom we gained experiencial knowledge about, yet people every day divorce them for various reason or refuse to be in contact with them because they no longer like them.

The bottom line is... everyone's different. A man/woman could have been brought up on the back side of the tracks & raised to love sex & become a sex addict. Years later, He/she get's saved & grows into a very mature believer. But... an addict is an addict. That person has a weakness they may...

Luke 18:22 Now when Jesus heard this, He said to him, “One thing you still lack; sell all that you possess and distribute the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 23But when he had heard these things, he became very sad, for he was extremely wealthy...

Point taken.:) Perhaps we could use someone like yourself to explain the flip side of the coin? We men sometimes forget that women have feelings too.

We are all flawed. I am happy you exercise self-control, but we can't control the other person, neither control how many devils are sent to tempt us. Every man needs to watch himself, for as soon as he thinks he's standing stable he can fall. (1 Corinthians 10:12). We all from time to time...

Firstly, more men are tempted than you know. Secondly, It's only proper for a male minister to minister to a female if his wife is with him. Thirdly, there ARE women in the church looking to seduce men. Since the Devil is one of the most faithful in church attendance, he will manipulate some...

Not quite true. many sinners feeling the conviction hard will say anything to get rid of you. It's been proven time & time again that it always gets the darkest just before daylight. Many sinners are at their worst before coming to Christ.

It seems to me that opponents of doctrine back then wrote against other's doctrine to establish their own. Sadly to say, fleshly involvement for pride's sake or ambition's sake tainted their vision, much like it does now in televangelism & here on CC, as in people trying to become "champions of...

Christians have free will. Some can't see a christian blame God for not intervening for a loved one when they die. You think that's impossible simply because it hasn't happened to you. Things happen. Some will fail the test of their faith & go back. If we say "they weren't saved in the first...

All sinners need to be saved regardless what sins are predominant in their life. God so loved the world means exactly that. God's not willing that any should perish means exactly that. The maniac of Gadara was demon possessed with over 2000 demons, but a single encounter with Jesus left him...