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  1. Chester

    Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

    Talking to yourself? :eek:;)
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    Is a doctrinal statement or the Scriptures the starting point for your church?

    I like your thoughts here, but in practicality how does this work? Suppose I pastor a church and make a doctrinal statement that says: (1) We believe salvation is by grace through faith, and not by works (2) We believe in the ordinance of baptism (3) We believe that tongues is a gift of...
  3. Chester

    Is a doctrinal statement or the Scriptures the starting point for your church?

    A cult is a group that does not teach the gospel. The gospel is the good news of the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Paul said if any preach any other gospel let them be accursed. I think all six listed in the first post preach the "gospel", but they do have different...
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    Is a doctrinal statement or the Scriptures the starting point for your church?

    Interesting thoughts -- not sure about the "similar to the AG"? But there might be something to be said here. But does the AG allow diversity within its ranks? I guess I still don't understand why you have to have a separate "statement of faith" if you are clearly teaching Scripture and...
  5. Chester

    Is a doctrinal statement or the Scriptures the starting point for your church?

    The ancestors of my denomination tried this in their relations with the Catholic Church, but they got kicked out -- and not just kicked out but then persecuted, tortured, and executed!
  6. Chester

    Is a doctrinal statement or the Scriptures the starting point for your church?

    Maybe so - might be a good solution: When are you leaving your denomination? LOL!
  7. Chester

    Is a doctrinal statement or the Scriptures the starting point for your church?

    You are probably right that most pastors say they would begin with the Scriptures. And I am sure most do teach the Scriptures and probably many do well at this. But the point is still this: if you are a part of a denomination with a doctrinal statement: the doctrinal statement comes before...
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    Is a doctrinal statement or the Scriptures the starting point for your church?

    Why do you say every church must have a clear statement of faith? Is not simply teaching and preaching the Word enough? In #4 you clarify this, but if there is a "clear and unequivocal" Scripture, then why does it need to be written as a "statement of faith"?
  9. Chester

    Salvation

    Eternal life can be seen as the gift that God gives when we are saved (delivered). I was saved at my conversion and at that point was given eternal life. But I am today being saved from the power and control of sin and so am living eternal life: life being the key word - the noun. Life...
  10. Chester

    The Bible Verse By Verse Continued...

    Jeremiah 50:7 King James Version All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the Lord, the habitation of justice, even the Lord, the hope of their fathers.
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    Is a doctrinal statement or the Scriptures the starting point for your church?

    It seems that for most churches (at least denominational ones) once doctrine is written down, then that becomes the starting point. For example, if I become a pastor in a Southern Baptist Church, or a Lutheran Church, or a Holiness Church, etc., dare I start my teaching by going to the Word and...
  12. Chester

    Pre-Destination, God's Foreknowledge and Choice

    Maybe most denominations originally started with the Scriptures, but once doctrine is written down, then that becomes the starting point. For example, if I become a pastor in a Southern Baptist Church, or a Lutheran Church, or a Holiness Church, etc., dare I start my teaching by going to the...
  13. Chester

    Pre-Destination, God's Foreknowledge and Choice

    So the believer has no option given him to leave Christ??!!!: I disagree, and I know (and I bet every person knows very well) that I (and he) have the moral capability to choose today to leave Christ, to go out and sin rdiculously, and to become a "Hitler" But I have become a servant of Jesus...
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    Pre-Destination, God's Foreknowledge and Choice

    Well - said -- though the captain of the boat does all he can to keep them on board - his love, persuasion, and kindness is impeccable and almost irresistable . . . but the captain is not a tyrant - he does not tie up and keep as prisoners those who want off the ship
  15. Chester

    Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

    Here is a question no flat-earther I have met or heard has been able to give an answer to: If the Earth is flat and the North Pole is the center of a circular flat Earth, then . . . distances in the southern Hemisphere are much greater between lines of latitude than distances between the same...
  16. Chester

    The Bible Verse By Verse Continued...

    Jeremiah 49:36 KJV And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come.
  17. Chester

    By Works

    When God becomes present in a person's life, He begins to do a mighty work that will show and manifest in the works of that person. Paul says in Eph. 2:10 = we are his workmanship. James says in 2:18: "shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.”
  18. Chester

    Not By Works

    Maybe both statements are true? God's Word is always true under any circumstances. What man says may or may not be true. It must be tested by the Word. If God's will is always done, then maybe we could say the second statement given is always false. But God's will is not always done (my...
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    Biblical Predestination

    I do not think there is any Scripture that says that unbelievers are predestined to not be saved. Thus the way I see it is that all who do not believe are not predestined. But when a person chooses to believe in Jesus, he/she becomes a part of God's plan for the church (which was established...
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    Biblical Predestination

    Always in Scripture when the word "predestinate" is used it is believers who are predestinated. Unbelievers are never said to be predestinated. When man chooses to have faith in Jesus, he becomes a part of God's plan for the church to be "conformed to the image of "Christ."