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  1. Chester

    As in the days of Noah... ALL flesh had CORRUPTED itself

    Angels can and do take on bodily form. And if the Scriptural text says that the sons of God had sex with human women, then they did! My starting point is Scripture, not "common sense".
  2. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Oh, I agree that this could be seen as "ought" to: but I think if that is all it is, that is a miserable way to live: I ought to do good deeds, but I don't have to do good deeds, or as my Dad used to say - "you don't have to, if you want to . . .!" -- Oh that advice still makes me grit my...
  3. Chester

    As in the days of Noah... ALL flesh had CORRUPTED itself

    Jude 6,7 confirm your interpretation: And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving...
  4. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Sometimes we make Scripture too theological instead of just taking it for what it says: All John 10:27 says is that Jesus sheep are hearing His voice and they are following Him.
  5. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    So you are saying that a person who thinks they are saved, but finds that his flesh just wants to keep on sinning is not ever born again at all?!!!!
  6. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    So is John 10:27 a statement about what His sheep _______________? (a) do (b) normally do (c) will do (d) sometimes do (e) must do You ruled out choice e. I think you have mentioned both (a) and (b) as correct answers. My answer is that all we know from this text is what it says: Jesus'...
  7. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    LOL - You wrote "Those who believe possess eternal life. And they shall never perish. Why don't you believe this?" -- of course I believe that - a solid Biblical truth! What I don't believe is those that are not sheep have eternal life. On John 10:27,28 I said: "The sheep who...
  8. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I said "The sheep who hear Christ's voice and follow him are given eternal life and they shall never perish!" I do not think this statement makes any "condition" - I think it is just stating clearly what the text says. Do you not agree that The sheep who hear Christ's voice and follow him are...
  9. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Oh, I see - so this "remnant" has understandings outside of what the Scriptures actually say!? Well, then, no use debating the Bible with such a group?!
  10. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    John 10:28 is very clear enough: a wonderful promise: PTL! John 10:27,28: My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. The sheep who hear Christ's voice and...
  11. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    If you want to believe in OSAS, you may, that is your prerogative. It is your arguments that make no sense to me? First, "who ever heard of being reverted from spiritually circumcised to uncircumcised"? That is a rhetorical question that carries no weight of evidence of anything at all. One...
  12. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    So you do believe that a person can die not believing in Jesus Christ and can still get to heaven. I don't believe that.
  13. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    So after all that you wrote, I ask again: Do you believe that a person can die not believing in Jesus Christ, and can still get to heaven? I answer that question with an unequivocable NO. John 3:36: He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the...
  14. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    So you do believe then that a person can die not believing in Jesus and can still get to heaven. I do not believe that way. I think Scripture teaches that those that are believing in Jesus are saved and those that are not believing in Jesus are not saved.
  15. Chester

    Romans 11:32, Galatians 3:22......

    Being born of the flesh in Adam caused all of us to be and become sinners! Horrific! But, all can be born of the second Adam, Jesus Christ, and become righteous in Christ Jesus! Wonderful! Exhilarating! PTL!
  16. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    So do you believe that a person who dies not believing in Jesus can go to heaven?
  17. Chester

    Hell's Population Clock

    Jesus clearly taught that hell fire would never be quenched: Here from Mark 9:43-48 are his own words: 43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 44 Where...
  18. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    John 3:36 ESV: He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” The key to eternal life is believing in Jesus Christ. The key to eternal life is not works nor is...
  19. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    LOL! I don't waste time answering "what if" questions -- I will just go back to reading Scripture and keeping my faith in my Redeemer. What I do know is that if a person believes in Jesus' atonement - they have eternal life. If they don't believe, they do not have eternal life.
  20. Chester

    Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I do accept the biblical teaching of eternal security: to all who believe in Him.