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Accordion to your paradigms. Job, of course WASN'T blameless, and was as much a SINNER, and short of the Glory of God as everybody else IS. Whether you like or not, God was AFTER two things in Job in order to make him BETTER than he was. And the entire process that GOD CAUSED had exactly the...

That appears to be the indication since the dead "Rise first" 1 Th 4::16,17

So to you, it's still just a wager between God and satan, and Job's "profit" from it is merely incidental - God had no redemptive purpose in what He started. Make no mistake - GOD STARTED the whole process, not satan, and every step along the way was under God's control.

So as far as you're concerned the whole thing was a "Contest" between God and satan, and job was nothing but a victim????

True statement. God did what God had to do to produce the realization in Job of what his latent Spiritual issues were. So then pay attention to the text!!!! Who STARTED the ball rolling?? was it satan or God??? God's "Cause"/"Reason" was to make Job Aware of his issues, so that he (Job)...

Only according to your private Interpretation/Paradigm

The context makes it clear. Everything that satan did was under God's control. I.e. you CAN do this, but you CAN'T DO THAT.

Nope - there was no "Wager". God used satan as His "tool" to educate Job primarily in the two areas mentioned, and bring him to repentance, as recorded in Job 42:6.

The Book is a study of HOW FAR God will go to "reach" a person, so that the person can REPENT of their sin. God uses satan as his "surgical instrument" to bring Job to repentance about TWO ISSUES that needed attention. Leviathan (Job's personal Pride), and Behemoth (Job's self-reliance in his...

Chuckle!! tongues ARE "gifts per se". The bible is CLEAR about when tongues (and "Prophesy" AND "knowlege") will cease. it's found in 1 Cor 13:8. You keep avoiding the central issue: What do YOU (your paradigm) think "That PERFECT" is. Except you haven't EXPLAINED anything at all - only...

God - since He's still empowering People (myself included) to manifest them. Apparently your religious paradigm doesn't agree, so no biggie. But you ignored my question: What's your "version" OF "THAT PERFECT"??? (1 Cor 13:10) The "Bible" is the most common suggestion and even the "Printing...

"Legitimate Poll" - isn't that a contradiction of terms????

That would be an "I don't know" indicating no knowledge of Spiritual gifts. You might want to read 1 Cor 12-14 to find out

Except, of course that Spiritual gifts (partial list in 1 Cor 12:7-11) are still present in 2024, and it's the "Cessationist paradigm" that they aren't which represents "Man's wisdom" to support his Theological paradigms. What's your "version" OF "THAT PERFECT"??? (1 Cor 13:10)

There's James 1:5-7. With the "Double-minded" qualification. God's truth is there and FREELY available - but there's "Fences" around it. If you don't "seek wisdom" SINGLE-MINDEDLY, then you get nothing. If you seek to use the written word to justify your own agenda / own denominational...

It's a "theological discussion" - so no good at all.

BUT HEY!!! There$ MONEY TO BE MADE. HCQ wa$n't going to make it for them, and $preading the lie$ about it probably co$t quite a bit.

It takes an exceedingly sharp hermeneutical broadaxe to split a hair that fine -

Yup "TEACHER" is a "gift of calling" as it were. In the Bereans case it was their comparisons of Paul's "word" to the Scriptures that led them to their conclusions.

Yup - I remember "Zion Bible Institute in Rhode Island (I think). And "Intellectuals" don't necessarily get it accurate. How many "Intellectuals" do you suppose are Catholics, and totally ignorant of what the Bible evens says - but claim to be HIS ONLY TRUE CHURCH on earth??? Yup - that's...