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I take that as meaning we are indwelt by sin, and constantly have a tendency towards sin, but also can partake of Christ's righteousness regularly. As a result, as we choose to partake of Christ's righteousness, we are *being cleansed.* It is an active process continually taking place as...

You're contradicting yourself and confusing others. You are sticking by your claim that "perfection means perfection." In this case, it does not. To "be perfect" means to live the right way--not be "perfectly live the right way." If you say sin is "dead within us" the way you've been saying it...

I'd rather deal with your arguments here than be referred elsewhere. You keep quoting verses that talk about the need to not *practice sin,* which has nothing whatsoever to do with being sinless. It is well understood that none of us is sinless, which of course all of the apostles stated. And...

Rather, it's heretical to claim you can be justified by works. To imply we can be perfect *at any time* is to claim perfection by works, and this belief was prohibited in Christian history. Jesus' command to "be perfect" is simply a call to live in true obedience to God's word, rather than by...

No, you are reading your own English personally-used definition of "perfection," which was never intended. You can easily see that by looking honestly at the context, both overall biblically and in this specific citation. Jesus never meant to speak of perfection--otherwise, salvation would never...

continuing.... When we read that Jesus said "be perfect," what he meant to say was "don't be a fraud," or "don't pretend religious devotion." "Perfection," in this sense, refers to being properly in compliance with the spirit of the law, rather than to be sinless in obeying the Law. It means to...

Yea, it does seem that Paul was attacked for his message on "grace!" Gal 5.10 I am confident in the Lord that you will take no other view. The one who is throwing you into confusion, whoever that may be, will have to pay the penalty. 11 Brothers and sisters, if I am still preaching...

Suit yourself. Just trying to help you, brother. I don't want to seem like the Devil pushing you in the wrong direction. I just want you to feel free to breath, since I consider it impossible and unhealthy to try to live in perfection. By all means, pursue holiness, but not perfection. You'll...

In my opinion, you're living in denial--probably trying to focus so much on Jesus that your mind doesn't have time to consider the alternatives. But I think that's bad for your brain. You do need to take Jesus with you, but you also have to focus on your business in the world as well. It's not...

It has nothing to do with thirst for "toilet water." Temptation is an attempt to draw us away from our contentment with Christ, and we need to resist it--whatever form that temptation takes.

I agree. For me it is the total humiliation of sin, after committing various acts, that make me never want to sin in those ways again! We can indeed be despicable creatures. But as you say, God's grace is truly "amazing!"

James speaks with the assumption that we are all tempted, though not by God. God tests us, but the enemy tempts us. James 1.13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14 but each person is tempted when they are dragged...

Good post! Although I can't claim to be "grateful" to be sinless, I know what you mean. We can accept ourselves as flawed, and be grateful for God's continuing kindness towards us, granting us His spiritual life, His righteousness, as well as the hope of eternal life. Yes, He refuses to...

I don't need to look all this up. The Scriptures say we were born in sin, period. I don't know of any NT or OT saint who claimed to be sinless, that sin had "died" in their lives by choosing to live righteous lives. Paul did say something similar to this which you obviously misunderstand. Paul...

So what we're really talking about here are the degrees of sin. We all agree that sin is serious. However, we have a Sin Nature, which means that little sins are happening, in one way or another, all the time. The kind of sin that damns is when we harden our hearts against the word of God in...

You don't lose your salvation every time you lose your temper!

Now that reply shows some real maturity! Thanks--I hope he hears it.

I went through something like that years ago. I began to walk in the Spirit, and found that I could focus on Christ's strength, and yield up my own lower passions quite easily. But things got more difficult over time. God had made it relatively easy for me for awhile. Tests came my way that...

You've missed the point. You should see the big picture, and not just focus on irrelevant facts. To say the word "perfect" always means "perfect" is missing the point, and I think you will acknowledge that if you even spend one minute considering what I said. I said *context* determines how...

I hope you're not this "narrow!" I'm talking about the fact the word "perfect" can mean different things in different contexts. Anybody with a rudimentary understanding of dictionaries knows this! "Perfect" can refer to being sinless or without any mistakes, or it can refer to proper alignment...