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  1. Marcelo

    Hi I’m Abigail

    Welcome to Christian Chat, Abigail. I hope you have come to stay with us for a long time. :p
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    Word Written

    You said it all; I have nothing to add.
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    I disagree with pastor David (below) on one point only: He calls red letter Christians "hypocrites". I think that the tendency to give priority to Jesus' words is normal; it has nothing to do with hypocrisy. I was myself a red letter Christian for almost 30 years. All of my Christian friends...
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    Hi, Phil, I have to stop now and continue tomorrow. Please, take the time to read the text below; I think it is interesting. Jesus vs. Paul Introduction Controversy has arisen regarding Jesus versus Paul as scholars debate the different emphases and messages of Jesus and Paul. 1 Jesus...
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    Sorry, my answer was regarding the other 3 authors of books (synoptic gospels). Answer: Yes, the apostle John taught a different gospel than Paul.
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    His book is different in style, but I don't think it's message is much different from those of the other three gospels.
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    Initially, the apostles other than Paul followed the teachings Jesus gave them while on earth. Then a long transition period took place and the revelations from the risen Jesus to Paul were introduced.
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    Initially the other apostles followed the teachings Jesus gave them while on earth, and eventually all of them were in unison with Paul.
  9. Marcelo

    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    That was God's plan to show humanity that we needed salvation by Jesus' blood.
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    Salvation by grace means you are not saved by your own merits. Of course a sufficient amount of holiness is necessary for salvation (adulterers, fornicators, liars, thieves, etc, will not enter heaven). According to the Gospel of Grace we don't have to perform a long list of Mitzvot; all we...
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    Obedience to the law of Moses.
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    According to some Bible interpreters, Jesus preached the Gospel of the Kingdom in order to establish his kingdom on earth. But this was impossible because the Jews rejected Him.
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    While on earth Jesus preached an improved version of the Old Testament -- He didn't preach the Gospel of Grace. A few years after He was taken up to heaven, He called Paul to be His spokesperson. Paul's message was different and naturally he had to make clear that the new message had been...
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    I'll give you just one example of teachings that are no longer applicable: Matthew 8 New International Version 8 When Jesus came down from the mountainside, large crowds followed him. 2 A man with leprosy[a] came and knelt before him and said, “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me...
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    No, Paul didn't correct Jesus -- he was used by the Lord as a spokesperson to preach the Gospel of Grace (the New Covenant), because while on earth Jesus preached only the Gospel of the Kingdom. Galatians 1:11-24 New International Version Paul Called by God 11 I want you to know, brothers...
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    Initially, Jesus' disciples taught the law of Moses. For example: they would sell their properties and give the money to the poor, just as Jesus told the rich young ruler to do. Then came Paul and he had trouble teaching some disciples the New Covenant.
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    Yes, Jesus told his disciples to teach others to obey everything He had commanded. The change from Old Covenant to New Covenant didn't happen overnight. The council of Jerusalem (when the law of Moses was officially abolished) took place some 15 years after the cross.
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    In the first place we have to know if the person wants forgiveness. I don't know if the Bible says anywhere that we must forgive regardless of a request. If we don't forgive we are harming ourselves. The grudge we hold keeps us away from the Holy Spirit and our spiritual life may deteriorate --...
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    Ephesians 2:8-10 New International Version 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in...
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    Do we have to love our enemies in order to be saved?

    Mt 19:17 World English Bible He said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."