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Agreed Disagree, I see Satan as a type or a pattern in the New testament, like Abraham is our father for those who believe he is a pattern of faith, Satan is the father of those who do not believe. In other words the Pharisees who should have accepted Jesus and His Word like Abraham and Moses...

Hehe, well I actually totally agree all commentators are fallible men and make mistakes including me, so all theology is suspect, like Spurgeon and his crazy Calvinistic bent, Spurgeon also wrote some good stuff which I get some good edification from, so Il read anything and not throw the baby...

To me Sin is disobedience of Gods Word, there was only one command and one sin that could be committed in Eden, and that was Adam was not to eat of that tree, I totally agree with the concept that there was no chemical reaction with the fruit for it was the indiscretion of Gods Word that opened...

Thanks friend for you literally made me laugh out loud..., You are actually saying because I believe in a pre trib rapture, I could be duped one day into thinking I have gone into heaven, which is a fake heaven :eek: and received my new immortal body when I wont have ;) , and I presume come...

Just in case your genuinely enquiring some people like myself have an alternate view as in regards to the principalities, powers and spiritual wickedness in high places, Demons were in the gospel accounts but they were cast out, they were swept clean from this world for a time, so our fight...

That is flat out false, and misleading.

There is no validity to these claims, it makes zero sense that so many things have accurately survived a game of Chinese whispers from Enoch down to Moses and down to people who contradict the bible who were clearly not inspired to put the book/books of enoch together in a mish mash of...

Exactly, which is why I have a huge dislike for the book of Enoch, Jude Quotes the man Enoch the seventh from Adam, in another words we are told so we know for sure its a direct quote from the man, there are so many discrepancies about the book of Enoch, even when it was written, it seems to be...

This may sound strange to some, but I see God using Satan to complete the plan, notice when Jesus said "what you do, do quickly" was after Satan entered into Judas, my first thought when reading is Jesus is commanding Satan. Similar to Matt 4 when God used Satan to show us some very insightful...

Interesting! Well I only have to read a few chapters in the NT and it is there in a plain explicit sense that no other context can be possible other than demonic activity is real. But and as you say I would have to read the OT over and over to maybe find a possible mention, In other words if its...

I was about 25 when I first got a bible and started reading it, I read the old testament first, and when I got to the new testament there were all these accounts about demons and I was flabbergasted I had no idea demons were in the bible I thought it was just myths and some strange notions like...

I dont believe the angel falling with the key is the same angel, fallen may seem negative in English but to me it can be either eyether, the falling is simply coming down from heaven to earth, a star given a role by God to go open the bottomless pit. 1. yeah 2. yes and of the seven 3. Yes is...

Did they not? This relates back to the OP is there a way to obtain eternal life without Jesus having to die. Is it the same tree as in the NJ? Wait is there more than one tree of life in the NJ? In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life...

I think I follow what your trying to say in the thread, but God is adamant that he did not create evil or sin, and I think we should not word it like that just because context is difficult, I think what your meaning is He did allow sin and evil to be in the world? which I would agree with. I...

All I know is that there is an appointed day, and while we dont know the exact day, we can look at the red sky in the morning and say its going to rain, Also with every decade that goes by it means we are at least a decade closer to that day, So odds are we are more likely to guess correctly...

Im not from the states but I hear tell some southern states havnt read Leviticus

Ive never had a problem thinking Cain married his sister, in fact I often wonder how many children Adam and Eve had, thinking that there life span was 10 times ours, I presume they were in their physical prime from age 20 to 400 how many kids would they chuck out? plus they would be great...

I have a habit of paraphrasing just to show my view, ill give some verses I was thinking of that I got my basic points from... Rev_12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having...

I think the angels were told they had to torment men for a short amount of time say until the end of the 70 weeks of Daniel and when the Lord went to cast some out, they said are you casting us out before the allotted(my paraphrase) time is up, (shows they did not understand the Church age for...

Ive heard this from numerous people, I think what they are saying is this, in the book of Job which is placed chronologically before a lot of events in the book of Genesis we know Satan had access to heaven, and therefore it proves he has access now, The problem I have with this logic is that I...