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I like the fact the kingdom Daniel spoke of and Abraham looked forward too was the heavenly kingdom, as opposed to the physical kingdom where Israel rules for a 1000yrs in my opinion while full of physical blessing, is also full of unbelief, obviously so if the world will again follow Satan at...

Thanks, I already surmised that you had the angels created before the creation account in Genesis or maybe day 1, I was more asking and am curious at what point do you have them singing about our physical creation? Just for your interest I see the spiritual creation as a mirror of our physical...

Could you please be more specific about the rejoicing of God's creative efforts, I mean what exactly was created by the time the angels rejoiced at, in your view?

I can't believe it... There is a subliminal message in your post, that says that you did not even read all my post lol

I agree about Romans 8, but do you also see how that lines up with my view that this creation is in bondage of corruption, and lines up with without form and void, that there was a need for light, and with the light it creates a division with the light and the dark. And even today there are...

I'm not sure anyone is saying that Ezekiel is not addressing Lucifer when he is addressing the king of Tyrus, but I presume people believe that Lucifer a spirit being could enter into men and that Ezekiel was addressing both the man, that is to say the human/flesh king and also the spirit being...

Well yes that is also what I'm saying and also think. I think that Lucifer had not rebelled yet and that in the garden of Eden when lucifer was just created, he was perfect in his ways, had wisdom and beauty. This ties in with scripture verse Gen 1:31 Then God saw everything that He made, and...

When Jesus was led by the spirit to be tempted by the devil, it was to show us that Jesus could not fall into temptation. Adam failed and as our representative I think we would agree we would all fail in his position. Jesus being tempted is directed by God to highlight His perfection in contrast...

I do enjoy hearing your thoughts, makes things interesting for sure. I guess I see a very literal creation account that is a picture and metaphor of the whole creation. The physical is a mirror of the spiritual creation. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Fullstop. That's...

I just presumed that Satan was enjoying himself with all the worldly wealth, he would go and indwell the kings or rulers of the earth, and make lots of money have influence and prestige masquerading as the king of Tyre, and he was very good at it, he's had a lot of years to watch men and...

Thanks for taking the time and effort to answer :) appreciate the honesty. I have to admit to being a little surprised at your answer, usually those who believe one can lose their salvation hold a die hard position that only when saved are they written into the book of life. Usually those who...

Hi, I just started reading this thread and started from this page and saw your blank post replying to MM, so I expanded and read MM's post, which was very good until I thought he has gone cuckoo and started contradicting himself lol Just wanted to point out your response is in his quote and...

I would, but at this exact moment I'm putting on my gears and helmet to go driving on two wheels, I cant listen to anything as I need to concentrate, everyone else out there is trying to knock me off it seems at times.

That's great for you, glad you are so blessed, care to give some insight? as I don't have time in the soon foreseeable future to listen to them at the moment. While I like types and can see Eve as a type of the church, I am aware of the possibility that types are limited to show only certain...

I'm saying for 72 hours there was no sun to orbit

Ill word it another way, sin is a transgression of the law which is disobedience to God. There was only one law or commandment given and it was only given to Adam, God told Adam not to eat of the tree. If a monkey ate the fruit, no disobedience, if a bird ate the fruit no sin, if Eve ate the...

To save the woman from what? There was still no curse, no death, and most importantly no sin is yet committed! What is sin? I ask because believe it or not people do not seem to grasp the simple meaning of sin. Which is disobedience to God's Word!! If God instructs you not to kill someone...

He was examined by the requirements of the Law and was perfect. He was examined by Satan and was faultless. He was examined by the rulers and the Governing authority and Pilate declared him as having done no wrong. He was examined by God and God declared "This is my son in whom I am well...

If everyone already believed in the rapture there would be less likely to be large amounts of material to refute those opposed to the idea, just the small amounts that we have that support a catching away to be with the Lord, but then again without the help of recording devices who knows what...

Well, for three days the earth did not orbit the sun! In other words when I'm taking a bath and I pull the plug 3 hours later and all my rubber duckies start gravitating towards the whirlpool, it does not mean the plug was in the centre of my bath! :LOL: