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  1. Clayman

    Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

    I know, and if or when the whole world turns against Israel, they will be in the wrong. Good thing the majority does not mean in the right, and when it comes to the things of God, as a general rule we know the majority, or the broader viewpoint/road is in the wrong. Remember God is causing...
  2. Clayman

    Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

    I sort of see the iron dome as protecting everyone in in Palestine, If it wasn't there then the daily indiscriminate genocidal attacks launched at Israel would be killing Israeli civilians or the populace en masse. Which would require a greater response or pre-emptive strikes on Hamas and a way...
  3. Clayman

    "Is There More Than one Gospel?...

    Agreed there is only one gospel, Im not even sure yet what the other gospel is that others are talking about, maybe one day ill work it out :D Im more inclined to see the church as positionally part of the kingdom of heaven, while I see the kingdom on earth is in darkness? When we become born...
  4. Clayman

    "Is There More Than one Gospel?...

    I agree that John did not perform priestly duties in the temple, but there seems to be a deeper truth or picture in Johns ability to play a priestly role. There is a changing of priesthood that had to occur for we are all now priests with the Lord our high priest. There is so many deeper or...
  5. Clayman

    "Is There More Than one Gospel?...

    Sure we can go through your points if ya want as long as there is give and take, you answer or address some of my points as well? Yet, John the Baptist, was a Levite through and through, one of the Jobs of the Levite priest was to certify the sacrifice was indeed suitable, without blemish. he...
  6. Clayman

    "Is There More Than one Gospel?...

    Ive been reading this thread and becoming more confused with the more than one gospel position, I guess I dont understand. Obviously Abel offering the sacrifice had no saving quality to it, so how is it good news unless its the figuratively pointing to Christ which it obviously is, but are not...
  7. Clayman

    "Is There More Than one Gospel?...

    Abraham wasn't the only one looking forward to the Messiah, the prophets, kings and even the angels also. 1Pet 1:10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of...
  8. Clayman

    "Is There More Than one Gospel?...

    The ram in the thicket on Mount Moriah was also hidden until the due time, Yet Abe had faith that God would provide even though he could not yet see it. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Heb 1:1
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    "Is There More Than one Gospel?...

    Yet the OT saint trusted in God and that He would provide, Abraham said, “God will provide for Himself the lamb for the burnt offering, my son. " "So Abraham called that place The LORD Will Provide. And to this day it is said, "On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided" The Sacrificial...
  10. Clayman

    "Is There More Than one Gospel?...

    The cross is the central and pivotal point of all creation, everything goes out from this point, we were after the cross and washed by the blood of the lamb, to me your perspective is not quite right, by that I mean, the questions are wrong instead of saying was you should say will! Will Abel...
  11. Clayman

    "Is There More Than one Gospel?...

    Did John the Baptist believe in God? Did the thief on the cross believe in God? Do you believe in God? I don't understand why the need to understand all the gospel in its completed form today is necessary for salvation, If there is a lost tribe in Africa or the Amazon jungle, that have had no...
  12. Clayman

    "Is There More Than one Gospel?...

    When you say, Paul the first saved by Grace, I dont understand your meaning to me it makes no sense in the context of two gospels, if Paul was the first saved by Grace then how was anyone saved before hand, I mean are not all are saved by Gods Grace for there is no other way. Is there an...
  13. Clayman

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Sorry for short answer, Im working and coffee break was over, The way I see it the church is pre raptured, when the tribulation begins God still needs a light in the darkness for people to see a way to God, For instance two lampstands will shine in the darkness. But the world will still be in...
  14. Clayman

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Short answer is for the world?
  15. Clayman

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Even post tribbers used to recognise the difference between the coming for His bride and coming to the earth, The coming to the earth is the second coming or the second advent. Other post tribbers will acknowledge that the bride returns with the Lord to the earth, so the events are separate and...
  16. Clayman

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Exactly, the rapture is something to look forward to, its a blessing, we are to wait expectantly for His coming to fetch His bride. He who testifies to these things says, "Surly I am coming quickly" Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus! Rev 22:20 or as you say, Looking for the blessed hope and...
  17. Clayman

    Principalities, powers, the rulers of the darkness of this world

    Wait! God created Adam and it was good!! and formed Eve and it was very good!! Makes perfect sense to me, haha
  18. Clayman

    Principalities, powers, the rulers of the darkness of this world

    No, just because I believe God is sovereign and all knowing and everything is foreordained from Gods viewpoint as the bible tells us does not mean I don't believe in free will, as I already said Adam still chose wrongly. There is two sides to the coin, and we cant delude ourselves into...
  19. Clayman

    Principalities, powers, the rulers of the darkness of this world

    Thanks I enjoyed your post as so many good points, I think a point of slight difference with me would be, God intended for sin to enter the world through Adam, before the first act of creation happened it happened with the forethought of a sinful world, we can see it in animals with isolation...
  20. Clayman

    Principalities, powers, the rulers of the darkness of this world

    By all means please enlighten me, I see Satan used in scripture as a metaphor for sin, and I think others only see and wrongly interpret the figurative verses with literal applications, so maybe that could be a good start point to correct me? Ill try and explain how I see things and maybe you...