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Doesn't matter if you buy it or not, the words say what they say and establish when. Hebrews is clear. You're in disagreement with what it says, not me. I simply brought it to the attention of those that weren't aware, for their edification, and yours too. Believe what you like.

The below is something I posted previously which would apply to this discussion. Thread 'The thief on the cross misconceptions' https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/the-thief-on-the-cross-misconceptions.51284/

Sorry for the response to you. I can't speak for him.

Repentance from, sorrow for sin committed which should also result in a change of mind and heart.

It's not a "formula" it's simply the elements required fir salvation and it's usually and naturally in thus order. You gotta hear the word and believe first a d thereby have faith. You must confess to your belief as did the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8 which is consistent with Romans 10:9 as a...

Above you said . "So repent be baptized and then receive the gift of the holy Spirit. So you can be saved and not be filled. You can tell the difference." Yes, true repent and be baptized to be saved (not sure what you meant by the rest however) Notice in that verse of scripture it says you...

Romans 10 and specifically verse 17

Born again by being obedient and following the commands given in order to be born again. 1. Belief and faith 2. Confession of belief 3. Repentance 4. Baptism, immersion in water Doing the above you will be born again

Draw it somewhere else

I'm not going to go around in circles with you. Think/believe what you like.

I don't misinterpret anything. My previous explanation was sufficient and by not including verse 37 has no bearing on the subject matter.

Go blab to someone else I'm done with you.

You are really blind. Goodbye 👋

It's not been pertinent relative to the process of salvation which typically revolves around the subject of baptism and discussions relative thereto.

Also as I've tried to point out many times here, Acts 2 and 10 were anomalies and not the norm. The Spirit FELL miraculously and unilaterally for a specific reason in both cases and that reason was for heavenly validation to those present which resulted in the establishment of the church in...

As I said, you pit scripture against scripture and this proves it. You can't take only one scripture that says one thing and ignor others that say something additive to it! You must look at all relative scriptures and combine the requirements of them all, not just assume one says all there is to...

Now you're making stuff up. I have NEVER told anyone they don't have to get baptized in water and never will. It's not what the scriptures say nor do I who simply quote them, nor have I ever pitted scripture against scripturead you do which is a stupid thing to do demonstrating a lack of...

I don't twist or distort anything nor run from anyone, ESPECIALLY, those that preach falsehood as you do, who unknowingly pit scripture against scripture in a feeble attempt to justify their flawed beliefs and understanding of the word of God, which is why I chose not to respond to your previous...

Be specific False. Yes, you are. You are disagreeing with the clear, straightforward words of the bible not me. Yes, there is only one baptism that places us in the body of Christ, and it's clear which one it is: immersion in water as was initiated by John the Baptist and which is carried...

I think they do today!