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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Just got done posting this on another thread here regarding the tribulation which applies here as well. REPOST #29 from tribulation thread The tribulation spoken of in Matthew 24 is not the end of times or the second coming of Christ as many erroneously believe. That tribulation happened with...
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    Why… we are not… and will not… go through the Tribulation.

    The tribulation spoken of in Matthew 24 is not the end of times or the second coming of Christ as many erroneously believe. That tribulation happened with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. When you look Matt 24 and starting at verse 29, you must also consider the parallel scriptures in...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    My only point being, since the majority don't quite understand and misinterpret the subject passages, is that "all flesh" does not mean everyone today, but rather it means the inclusion of the Gentiles. And secondly, these things have already happened and have no relevance to us today.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Simple answer, no.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Acts 2:17-18 as referenced to Joel 2:28-29, has already happened. Go back 1 verse earlier to Acts 2:16 which says "this is that" "16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;" The power from on high was promised to the apostles by the Lord as recorded in Luke 24:49, who then had...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    What does that really mean; do you know? What is it referring to, since you've extracted a couple passages out of a larger text trying to apply it out of context as though it were relevant today?
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Yes; the miraculous manifestation of the Spirit (gifts) have ceased, so this entire thread is predicated upon that which is no longer relevant today.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    You continue to miss the point on everything intentionally or otherwise. Goodbye. I'm done with you. Believe whatever nonsense you like.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    There was no magic in the water either when Naaman was cured of his leopracy in 2 Kings 5 when he was told to dip 7 times in the dirty Jordan River. It's obedience, belief, faith, and trust.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    The baptism with fire is NOT what you think it is. It's the unquenchable fires of hell John is referring to. Read the entire context of Luke 3 and who he was referring to. Luke 3:17 tells you what the baptism of fire is. 17Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Has nothing to do with OT laws and sacrifice it's simply means because Jesus was alive everything done was whike the OT and not the NT criteria was in effect. Baptism into Christ was part of the NT requirements for salvation and had nothing to do with the OT since Jesus was still aluvevwhen he...
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Agreed. Falling away and losing salvation as warned of to the Hebrews in the Hebrew letter is different than never having been saved to begin with.
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    You have to 1st ask and understand how one becomes saved to begin with, and compare what is believed, taught and practiced according go scripture as opposed to what others believe, teach, and practice. When you look at ALL pertinent scriptures regarding salvation you end up with a short list...
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    Faith alone, faith plus works? Something is missing in this discussion

    Just a correction to my post which the forum system won't allow me to edit for some reason, it currently says " it's not nonsense" but should be and should have been 'its just nonsense'.
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    Faith alone, faith plus works? Something is missing in this discussion

    Yes! How exactly by the scriptures is one " BAPTIZED BY GOD INTO THE BLOOD"??? I know of no such process described in the Bible. It's not nonsense.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Repentance is a life long process. At the time you are convinced, believe, and decide you want to become a Christian and be baptized as those did in biblical times, what does that (repent) or could that mean at that very point in time, and what could it have meant back then at that point in time...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    I followed the scriptural guidelines to be saved. I heard the word, as did those in the bible, believed it also as those in the bible, confessed publicly my belief in the Lord as did those in the bible, repented, being sorrowful for the past sins committed, a d was baptized into Christ. Having...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Lamar. Did you know there are degrees of repentance?? That's what Mr. 3rd class mail is inferring. Wonder where thus can be found in the bible? I guess there's truly repent, kinda repent, sorta repent, pretend repent, etc, don't know what other ones there are, but maybe he can expound on this a...
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    Faith alone, faith plus works? Something is missing in this discussion

    Hey Lamar, these guys don't respond to legitimate questions that have simple scriptural answers, and their only response is to quote or point you to so-called experts with some grandiose answers that support their false, distorted, doctrine. I wonder who the deciples of the bible turned to...
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    Faith alone, faith plus works? Something is missing in this discussion

    Regarding baptism. Must be by immersion because that's what the Greek word means, not sprinkle, pour, etc. And regarding Matt 28:19 vs Acts 2:38, since scripture cannot contradict itself, either/or are acceptable. In reality, when you say "in the name of", such as in the name of the king, or...