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    Faith alone, faith plus works? Something is missing in this discussion

    I'll stick to the original which I know ti be sound and which don't need any man created supplements.
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    Faith alone, faith plus works? Something is missing in this discussion

    If it's unknown in origin and contradicts, changes, or ammends actual scripture, it ain't good and shouldn't be considered.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    There are 4 gospels. Why doesn't each one say exactly the same thing??? By your logic, actually illogical, in each account, the exact same thing should be found in total. Is that what the reality is?? NO. Each gospel is different, some saying more, some less, some slightly different. So, do you...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    I read the 1st line and that was enough. Baptism IS NOT a public declaration of anything to anyone and is modern day nonsense. Who was the Ethiopian eunuch making a public declaration to in Acts 8? It was just him and Philip in the middle of nowhere!
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    "Men and brethren what shall we do?" Realizing the fact that they were responsible for crucifying Jesus and that sin and error. And Peter told them exactly what to do and why.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Lamar; I'll provide this response here to you BUT, it's really intended for Mr. 3rd class mail who continues to vainly twist and distort the scriptures to justify his erroneous beliefs. Below he said he has explained Acts 2:38 many times which is a nonsensical statement because it's...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Speak where the Bible speaks remain silent where it is silent. There is no record of musical instruments being used during worship in the NT church Is it wrong or sinful? No. But, whenever you start intersecting musical instruments it becomes a slippery slope: it can become entertainment the...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    You're not understanding what occurred in Caesarea and why the Spirit became manifested in the manner it did and prior to the laying on of an apostle's hands as was necessary in all other recorded events other than Acts 2 where the Spirit fell similarly but on the apostles. In both cases, both...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    I have no interest in debating you or anyone, I'm simply interested in citing the scriptures and letting them do the debating. You made a claim that can't be scripturally supported. I simply asked for specifics.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Like what EXACTLY? Name the "idiotic" and "comical" stuff.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    The point of the forgiveness of the thief is simply that. Jesus forgave him, unspecifically, but that says it all. He forgave him of everything, past sins included. If he was forgiven, he was thereby made righteous. Likewise Jesus forgave the adulterous woman of her sins. No difference other...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    What you and your buddy are missing is that if Jesus was alive the NT had nor taken effect yet which is clear discussed on the Hebrew letter that I pointed out since it states that a testament is not in force until the death of the testator, Jesus. In regards to baptism, it's a moot point...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    God knows why you're baptized. As long as it's in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38) or in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost per Matthew 28:19. Either is okay since scripture doesn't contradict scripture. In ether case what it's saying is by the authority of.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Where does scripture support that? It doesn't. If you die while still in sin, you are lost, not saved since upon baptism your sins are remitted per Acts 2:38. Jesus was clear and unequivocal in the cited scripture, Mark 16:15-16. Both words are inextricably tied together, one dependent upon the...
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Mk 16:15-16 15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Belief + baptism = salvation
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Follow the link on post #148 Thief on the cross was forgiven and saved under OT criteria while Jesus was alive not under NT criteria.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    He could have maybe spoken with someone from a group with a similar name like the United church of Christ who DO regard the Sabbath which is my guess but for sure it wasn't anyone from the coC
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    Blah, blah, blah, just your words. I'm done corresponding with you.
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    And one needs to understand them within their respective context. Your answer is a cop out and proves 0. Believe what you like. Goodbye 👋
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    Are gifts evidence of salvation?

    I have no case to degrade. It's not my ideas or verballizing nonsense as most do here, it's simply the words of the bible I'm presenting. Accept THEM or not. Believe what you like.