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    Research: Majority of Americans Believe Works Are the Key to Salvation

    LOL, need to lay off the cheap Port. Here is what I see the Gospel as... Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which alswo ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have...
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    IF the Latin Vulgate (and that is a big IF) is true to the original autograph, then I would say someone has added to the text.
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    Here is Jesus' take on the matter... For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (Mat 5:18)
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    I did not start the OP to start a debate between the Received Text vs Critical Text. So that 'KJV dig' was uncalled for. I do understand though that liberal theologians play loosey goosey with the text and conservative theologians are more careful to detail. I confess to siding with the latter...
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    Research: Majority of Americans Believe Works Are the Key to Salvation

    @Goliath ,you need to learn to quote people properly on a forum, otherwise they have nothing to respond to. If you want a response, try again.
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    It doesn't say adding or taking away 'truth' but adding or taking away 'words'. Revelation 22:18 (KJV) For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book...
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    Never even hinted at a conspiracy, if it was never there, then someone added it in, and if it was there someone removed it. I don't see how it could be otherwise.
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    I believe in the OP, I indicated one or the other is in Big Trouble. (Please reread the OP.).
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    You've been on this Forum long enough to know it is polite to quote the person you are addressing, otherwise, we don't know who 'you/your' is being addressed.
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    Research: Majority of Americans Believe Works Are the Key to Salvation

    J There is no need to reconcile Jesus with Paul. They don't contradict, unless you are willing to say the Holy Spirit contradicts Himself. Remember ALL Scripture is given by inspiration of God (2Tim 3:16), and Jesus never wrote Scripture while on this earth. Jesus put his stamp of approval on...
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    Research: Majority of Americans Believe Works Are the Key to Salvation

    Remember, those were compromising and are liberal Lutherans, now embracing wokism and gay marriage. They failed to see the real divide which spurred the Reformation, and that was a man is justified before God by faith ALONE, do you believe that, or do you side with Rome who anathematized those...
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    The problem with that is 'how do we know some zealous scribe didn't add words to the Received Text? (adding and/or omitting text is what is in question with the OP.
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    Sorry, I had left. That's an interesting point, perhaps it is like saying 'for those who hear these words and notice someone adding or omitting words, let it be known the plagues/blessings herein shall be added/removed etc. I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this...
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    No, but neither do I want to turn this into an OSAS thread. We have more than enough of those.
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    Research: Majority of Americans Believe Works Are the Key to Salvation

    I didn't realize post-justification licentiousness was the topic. I don't think anyone would argue for licentiousness. Our faithfulness and fruits of righteousness are linked to the New Life we received in regeneration...a new heart, a new love, a new will.
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    Research: Majority of Americans Believe Works Are the Key to Salvation

    The whole Bible is Jesus teaching... All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (2Ti 3:16)
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    Doesn't verse 19 include 'written in this book'? Which writings written? Which book? That would be the context
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    Someone is in Big Trouble

    I got that but can't you see the difference is not one comma, but ten words, added or omitted
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    Research: Majority of Americans Believe Works Are the Key to Salvation

    And notice, these same work-a-holics have Pauline phobia?