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Wow! You really don't read too swell. That's not what Cam said! Go back and read his post again.

Great man-centered theology you have. When the ancient Israelites were enslaved to Pharaoh in Egypt, why didn't they just exercise their "free will" and walk out of Egypt since they complained so much about their predicament?

How can an evil act not be sinful? Moreover, unbelief in Jesus will result in unbelievers dying in their sins -- the sins for which they will be judged! John 8:23-24 23 And He was saying to them, "You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. 24 "I said...

In other words, God sent Jesus into the world to potentially save it? Jesus makes salvation available (i.e. possible) to those who choose to be saved?

Wow! What a just god you have. He punishes sin twice over. And I thought you said Jesus' atonement was vicarious and efficacious. :rolleyes:

It's not so much about choosing to love as it is choosing who is the object of love. Unregenerate sinners are very capable of loving themselves, loving their children, loving money, loving the world, loving the darkness, etc. But loving God!? Not so much! The unregenerate man's mind is...

Oh I see. God takes a back seat to both the devil and Job -- the devil because he "could have stopped Job...." and to Job himself because Job was doing such a stellar, superb Job in persevering in his faith. What unmitigated theological rubbish! God is reduced to a spectator! Satan knew he...

You totally miss the point to God's dialogue with Job! God asks all those RHETORICAL creation-based questions to Job beginning in chapter 38 to highlight Job's ignorance in wanting to confront God about his afflictions. And God also wanted to accentuate Job's futility and foolhardiness in...

I'll take that as a resounding, "NO" answer to the last question I asked in my last post to you.

But you did accuse him without offering any evidence. And since you, evidently, deem yourself to be incapable of supporting your own opposing position to JB's by using his proof texts, then I can only conclude you're chasing the wind. You're just like PT: He doesn't like Job's anthropology, so...

In other words you cannot support your unsubstantiated accusation that Jimbone quoted all those out of context? You don't have to prove that Mr. JB's "concept" exists; rather, you need to prove that your opposing concept does! And the way you do that is by exegeting those passages JB quoted.

But what happens in the real world when we run into people who are incompetent to make choices on their own? Don't family members or close friends usually step up to help such helpless people out of their unenviable situation? And when such people do help, are they not manifesting love with...

Well...how 'bout this for a novel idea: Instead of summarily dismissing Jimbone's verses on your theory that they were all lifted out of context, why don't you choose a few of his verses and exegete them for us? This would be your opportunity to advance your criticism from a theoretical state...

And you're assuming that God really didn't call Job to Satan's attention, so now you're all set to perform magical feats of eisegesis? And pray tell, what was God's intention behind this: Job 1:8-12 8 Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth...

Well, I'm glad to see that you finally agree with me. Job's words without knowledge was precisely what I said earlier and you now agree with: Job was self-righteous in his own eyes, feeling totally unworthy of his troubles...AND because of this he wanted to confront God about the justice of it...

Thanks so much for sharing some of your personal life with us. I have to say: You're one interesting saint! Will be keeping you in my prayers.

So what, not all arrived at their destination? Show me in the Abrahamic Covenant wherein God promised Abraham that each and every descendant of his would inherit the Land! That, sir, only happens under the unilateral New Covenant which is the ultimate fulfillment of all the OT covenants! P.S...

Since Job has come up again, I think it's only right that I dispel the argument by Mr,. PT that Job cannot be trusted because Job did not speak rightly of God. And since Job cannot be trusted, then that means the entire book must be suspect in terms of its veracity. The keynote passage that...

Well guess what...that "bad theology" of all them crept right into first century Judaism. John 9:1-2 9:1 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?" NIV Was Satan the ultimate cause? Job...

No one is born "innocent" because Adam's sin is imputed to all of us. Furthermore, no one born of a woman is pure! Babies are born with a sin nature. What you conveniently overlook in Rom 9 is that it's teaching that God's election never depends upon the objects he elects. That's why it says...